Comments on: Mike Hargrove, your 2005 manager

By: J

Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:00:43 +0000

Ron Hassey is the new Mariners bench coach.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-mariners-price&prov=ap&type=lgns

By: J

Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:03:22 +0000

Other than the possibility of Mark Wiley taking over as pitching coach over Price, no news yet.

By: David J Corcoran

David J Corcoran — Mon, 25 Oct 2004 01:52:57 +0000

Real glad to see a guy willing to try guys at different positions. All Melvin did was let Bloomquist start in 1st and Centre field.

*Insert Sarcasm*
Real bold (and smart), that is!

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 23 Oct 2004 02:38:47 +0000

Have there been any rumblings about who Hargrove’s coaches are going to be?

By: Paul Molitor Cocktail

Paul Molitor Cocktail — Sat, 23 Oct 2004 00:40:25 +0000

From rotoworld:
Olerud does seem to have some interest in staying with the Yankees. “It’s definitely a lot more fun playing on a winning team,” he said. “That’s for sure.”

By: Evan

Evan — Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:56:48 +0000

After reading Jim Moore’s piece on Hargrove, I like him.

I don’t really think any manager is going to have a huge effect on the team, so I just want someone fun. Hargrove sounds fun (and he drinks Canadian beer, which counts for a lot).

By: Adam S

Adam S — Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:29:55 +0000

I think it’s results relative to expectations. Say that over a four year stretch a team won it’s division all four years, made it to the World Series twice, but didn’t win a World Series. If the Mariners did that (or had done it in the past years), we’d be elated. The Yankees having just done it qualifies as a poor postseason performance.

The sense was that the Indians were headed the wrong way — from almost winning the World Series to just being a division winner and that they should have done better. I think Hargrove got scapegoated.

By: Red F & F

Red F & F — Fri, 22 Oct 2004 20:20:46 +0000

Has Cleveland done so badly in the postseason? In 6 postseason appearances they won 29 games (getting to WS game 6 with a 100-44 team – their only 100-win team, although they did go 99-62 the next year – and WS game 7 with an 86-75 team).

While Cleveland has gone to the WS 2 out of 6 playoff appearances, both under Hargrove, the group of teams which have made 3-5 playoff appearances from 1995-2004 (Oak, Sea, Tex, Min, Bos, StL, Hou, Ariz, SF, LA) are 4 for 39 (2 coming this year), with only 2 titles (2001 and 2004).

Of course there’s the oddity that the teams making just 1 or 2 post-season appearances from 1995-2004 are 5 for 15 getting to the WS compared to that 4 for 39. (And LCS 9/15 vs. 14/39).

I’d say Cleveland even looks good compared to the Braves (5 of 8 NL 100-win seasons from 1996-2003, 0 of 3 titles). Maybe not the Yankees….

By: bob mong

bob mong — Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:55:01 +0000

Just for kicks, I compiled the SB/CS numbers for the full seasons that Hargrove managed (1992-1999, 2000-2003):

1992: 144 SB, 67 CS, 68%
1993: 159 SB, 55 CS, 74%
1994: 131 SB, 48 CS, 73%
1995: 132 SB, 53 CS, 71%
1996: 160 SB, 50 CS, 76%
1997: 118 SB, 59 CS, 67% (Kenny Lofton gone this year)
1998: 143 SB, 60 CS, 70% (Lofton back)
1999: 147 SB, 50 CS, 75%
2000: 126 SB, 65 CS, 66%
2001: 133 SB, 53 CS, 72%
2002: 110 SB, 48 CS, 70%
2003: 89 SB, 36 CS, 71%

Total: 1592 SB, 644 CS, 71%

For whatever that’s worth.

By: paul

paul — Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:38:32 +0000

You know what’s weird? This post is number 1995.

There was no quit in that ballclub.