Comments on: Game accounts http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:59:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Evan http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12927 Evan Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:08:30 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12927 When you could subscribe to JUST the condensed game from MLB.com, I did. Now they've bundled it with MLB.tv, which I don't want (and I can't get that nifty MSN Premium deal because I live in Canada), so I can't watch the condensed games anymore. But they were wonderful. My only complaint was they'd always try to get the condensed game to run for 22 minutes or less, which in a game with a ton of offense meant they'd actually skip some at-bats that result in runs (Cammy's 4 HR game was like that). Speaking of Dave Niehaus, he was inteviewed on Vancouver radio just after Christmas, and he spoke very lyrically about this offseason, and how delighted he was to see the Mariner's make some noise in the FA market. Honestly, it sounded like Dave was so happy he was going to cry. When you could subscribe to JUST the condensed game from MLB.com, I did. Now they’ve bundled it with MLB.tv, which I don’t want (and I can’t get that nifty MSN Premium deal because I live in Canada), so I can’t watch the condensed games anymore. But they were wonderful.

My only complaint was they’d always try to get the condensed game to run for 22 minutes or less, which in a game with a ton of offense meant they’d actually skip some at-bats that result in runs (Cammy’s 4 HR game was like that).

Speaking of Dave Niehaus, he was inteviewed on Vancouver radio just after Christmas, and he spoke very lyrically about this offseason, and how delighted he was to see the Mariner’s make some noise in the FA market. Honestly, it sounded like Dave was so happy he was going to cry.

]]> By: Jim http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12898 Jim Wed, 29 Dec 2004 06:38:48 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12898 Two comments: 1) I remember not long ago that I could justify reading SI because of the writing - it was really good! Now just dumbed down to compete with ESPNMag and FSN. Beavis is real and living among us. 2) If you want to get a serious dose of sports writing, check out one of the November "New Yorker" issues (sorry not sure which one), wherein Roger Angell describes the World Series. It is better than watching it on TV, believe it or not. One can imagine a world where all "sportswriters" are locked in a room, their eyeballs propped open, and they are made to read the works of the immortals. I know, Kubrick thought of it first - but you can kinda understand how he felt! Two comments:
1) I remember not long ago that I could justify reading SI because of the writing – it was really good! Now just dumbed down to compete with ESPNMag and FSN. Beavis is real and living among us.
2) If you want to get a serious dose of sports writing, check out one of the November “New Yorker” issues (sorry not sure which one), wherein Roger Angell describes the World Series. It is better than watching it on TV, believe it or not. One can imagine a world where all “sportswriters” are locked in a room, their eyeballs propped open, and they are made to read the works of the immortals. I know, Kubrick thought of it first – but you can kinda understand how he felt!

]]> By: Metz http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12860 Metz Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:12:28 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12860 One of the great ways I got a quick game summary last season was to use MLB.tv's compressed game. It was comparable to the Mariners Fast Forward that Fox sports tried running for a few years. The compressed game only showed pitches that led to actual events. You could watch a game in around 15 minutes. You certainly don't get the flow of the game but you do get a good appreciation of the major events that happened. The bummer is that it is only posted 24 hours after the game is complete. One of the great ways I got a quick game summary last season was to use MLB.tv’s compressed game. It was comparable to the Mariners Fast Forward that Fox sports tried running for a few years. The compressed game only showed pitches that led to actual events. You could watch a game in around 15 minutes. You certainly don’t get the flow of the game but you do get a good appreciation of the major events that happened. The bummer is that it is only posted 24 hours after the game is complete.

]]> By: Dave O'Neill http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12859 Dave O'Neill Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:40:32 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12859 Re: 42 Yes, Noel I noticed that, too. Wasn't the reported payroll for 2004 more like 95 million? Where did that 13.2 million go? I know Howard LIncoln said he wanted to field a competitive team - was he referring to his Polo club? Re: 42
Yes, Noel I noticed that, too. Wasn’t the reported payroll for 2004 more like 95 million? Where did that 13.2 million go? I know Howard LIncoln said he wanted to field a competitive team – was he referring to his Polo club?

]]> By: Noel http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12858 Noel Tue, 28 Dec 2004 03:16:50 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12858 Phil - Jim and I have been hammering out some ideas already, and he's also been in touch with some other readers, so we could use him as the central clearing-house... jthomsen@hotmail.com . As for me, I'm at ncb999@hotmail.com . Phil – Jim and I have been hammering out some ideas already, and he’s also been in touch with some other readers, so we could use him as the central clearing-house… jthomsen@hotmail.com . As for me, I’m at ncb999@hotmail.com .

]]> By: Phil http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12857 Phil Tue, 28 Dec 2004 03:06:12 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12857 Noel - whats your e-mail and/or AIM Noel – whats your e-mail and/or AIM

]]> By: Noel http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12856 Noel Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:10:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12856 Hmmmmm. Seattle's payroll was determined by MLB to be $81.8M in 2004, ranking 11th in the majors. Only $81.8M??? The article notes that "Payrolls include salaries, prorated shares of signing bonuses, earned bonuses, buyouts of 2004 options and cash transactions." Hmmmmm. Seattle’s payroll was determined by MLB to be $81.8M in 2004, ranking 11th in the majors. Only $81.8M???

The article notes that “Payrolls include salaries, prorated shares of signing bonuses, earned bonuses, buyouts of 2004 options and cash transactions.”

]]> By: Noel http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12855 Noel Tue, 28 Dec 2004 02:05:06 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12855 In fact it *was* an entire payroll for the 2004 Devil Rays. In fact it *was* an entire payroll for the 2004 Devil Rays.

]]> By: Noel http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12854 Noel Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:59:52 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12854 Off topic: the Yankees have to pay more than $25M in luxury tax for 2004... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1953986 [cough, choke] That's almost an entire payroll for some teams. Off topic: the Yankees have to pay more than $25M in luxury tax for 2004…

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1953986

[cough, choke] That’s almost an entire payroll for some teams.

]]> By: Jim Thomsen http://www.ussmariner.com/2004/12/26/game-accounts/comment-page-1/#comment-12853 Jim Thomsen Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:59:31 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2174#comment-12853 Phil .... I think you've got a great idea, but I also think for now we should think small and not try to put some ambitious network together until we have a small but manageable foundation from which to build. Let's start with a season of Mariner game reports, with lots of color and analysis ... and measure the response to it, and take the next step based on what sort of feedback we get. Or don't get. To reiterate: Which readers here would like to be involved in the posting of inning-by-inning, chronological reports of all 162 Mariner games throughout the season ... based on being at the ballpark, watching on TV or listening on radio (or some combination thereof)? As I see it, we'd need to: -- Name and launch a blog. (I'll admit up front I'm not smart or technically skilled enough to take the lead on this.) -- Agree on a game-reporting format for consistency's sake. -- Draw up a schedule online so volunteers can pick a game date to their liking, with the understanding that it doesn't matter so much if 15 people file a report on a given day as it matters that at least ONE person file a report for every game. -- Set a deadline for posting. -- Agree on a handful of people skilled in such things to edit for grammar, spelling, typos, accuracy, libel and good taste before posting. (I like good colorful sarcasm just like you ... but we all know there's such a thing as crossing the line. Let's see if we can't agree on where that line is.) -- Tell everybody you know, and everybody you don't. Please e-mail me so we're not hogging up USS Mariner bandwidth at jthomsen@hotmail.com. But I ask for suggestions from Dave, Derek and Jason — as well as everybody else who would be a reader if not a writer — to offer up their ideas into what format constitutes an ideal, readable, informative, useful, response-triggering game report. I don't necesarily need to be the one taking charge here, by the way ... I'm just trying to lend some coalescence and momentum what seems like a good idea. E-mail me. Phil ….

I think you’ve got a great idea, but I also think for now we should think small and not try to put some ambitious network together until we have a small but manageable foundation from which to build. Let’s start with a season of Mariner game reports, with lots of color and analysis … and measure the response to it, and take the next step based on what sort of feedback we get. Or don’t get.

To reiterate:

Which readers here would like to be involved in the posting of inning-by-inning, chronological reports of all 162 Mariner games throughout the season … based on being at the ballpark, watching on TV or listening on radio (or some combination thereof)?

As I see it, we’d need to:

– Name and launch a blog. (I’ll admit up front I’m not smart or technically skilled enough to take the lead on this.)
– Agree on a game-reporting format for consistency’s sake.
– Draw up a schedule online so volunteers can pick a game date to their liking, with the understanding that it doesn’t matter so much if 15 people file a report on a given day as it matters that at least ONE person file a report for every game.
– Set a deadline for posting.
– Agree on a handful of people skilled in such things to edit for grammar, spelling, typos, accuracy, libel and good taste before posting. (I like good colorful sarcasm just like you … but we all know there’s such a thing as crossing the line. Let’s see if we can’t agree on where that line is.)
– Tell everybody you know, and everybody you don’t.

Please e-mail me so we’re not hogging up USS Mariner bandwidth at jthomsen@hotmail.com.

But I ask for suggestions from Dave, Derek and Jason — as well as everybody else who would be a reader if not a writer — to offer up their ideas into what format constitutes an ideal, readable, informative, useful, response-triggering game report.

I don’t necesarily need to be the one taking charge here, by the way … I’m just trying to lend some coalescence and momentum what seems like a good idea.

E-mail me.

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