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	<title>Comments on: Los Angeles Angels of Anahiem</title>
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		<title>By: planB</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/01/05/los-angeles-angels-of-anahiem/comment-page-2/#comment-13688</link>
		<dc:creator>planB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 04:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My two cents; with respect to aural pleasure:
Anaheim Angels &gt; California Angels &gt; Los Angeles Angels

...even without the ridiculous &quot;of&quot; suffix, what is he thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My two cents; with respect to aural pleasure:<br />
Anaheim Angels > California Angels > Los Angeles Angels</p>
<p>&#8230;even without the ridiculous &#8220;of&#8221; suffix, what is he thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/01/05/los-angeles-angels-of-anahiem/comment-page-2/#comment-13687</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real Rhino 

Agencies are always looking for the best way to communicate with their client&#039;s customer.  They research ratings and qualitative data about who is watching the program.

In some cases the agency is searching out the buy through FSN or a local station, but in others they are comparing packages that have been pitched to them by either the station or the team (or a combination).

This is about perception and reality.  The Angels for the next few years will have a much better product than the Dodgers.  The Dodgers only have history on their side.  

Who in Seattle ever thought the Mariners would be a better property than the Seahawks.

Markets do change and I think the Angels stock is hot right now and the Dodgers stock is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real Rhino </p>
<p>Agencies are always looking for the best way to communicate with their client&#8217;s customer.  They research ratings and qualitative data about who is watching the program.</p>
<p>In some cases the agency is searching out the buy through FSN or a local station, but in others they are comparing packages that have been pitched to them by either the station or the team (or a combination).</p>
<p>This is about perception and reality.  The Angels for the next few years will have a much better product than the Dodgers.  The Dodgers only have history on their side.  </p>
<p>Who in Seattle ever thought the Mariners would be a better property than the Seahawks.</p>
<p>Markets do change and I think the Angels stock is hot right now and the Dodgers stock is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 01:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On that note--Please, from now on, refer to me in my full name:

Ballard Jordan Bullock of Northwest Hospital in Seattle Presented in Close Conjunction with the Laws and Principles of Science, Property of CallVision, Inc.

If you must, you can use BJBNWSPCCLPSPCVI, though only in writing please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On that note&#8211;Please, from now on, refer to me in my full name:</p>
<p>Ballard Jordan Bullock of Northwest Hospital in Seattle Presented in Close Conjunction with the Laws and Principles of Science, Property of CallVision, Inc.</p>
<p>If you must, you can use BJBNWSPCCLPSPCVI, though only in writing please.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Staples</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Staples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2001-2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2001-2004.</p>
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		<title>By: RealRhino</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/01/05/los-angeles-angels-of-anahiem/comment-page-2/#comment-13684</link>
		<dc:creator>RealRhino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#69 -- When were you at Boalt?

#73 -- Since you seem to have a good idea about this, could you guess how this generates national ad revenue for them?  Is it just that East Coast media buyers see &quot;LA&quot; and think, &quot;Heyyy, we should advertise on the Angels broadcasts,&quot; as opposed to seeing &quot;Anaheim&quot; and thinking, &quot;Hmmm, how quaint?&quot;  Is this how the ad biz works?  The company reps or media buyers or whatever they&#039;re called look around for stuff on which to advertise?  Or do the Angels proactively try to sell ad time?  Who calls who first?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#69 &#8212; When were you at Boalt?</p>
<p>#73 &#8212; Since you seem to have a good idea about this, could you guess how this generates national ad revenue for them?  Is it just that East Coast media buyers see &#8220;LA&#8221; and think, &#8220;Heyyy, we should advertise on the Angels broadcasts,&#8221; as opposed to seeing &#8220;Anaheim&#8221; and thinking, &#8220;Hmmm, how quaint?&#8221;  Is this how the ad biz works?  The company reps or media buyers or whatever they&#8217;re called look around for stuff on which to advertise?  Or do the Angels proactively try to sell ad time?  Who calls who first?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#52 - That just means the American legal system doesn&#039;t work the way I think it should.  That&#039;s what the contract says; that&#039;s what it should mean.  Especially if you can demonstrate that the change to Anaheim wasn&#039;t intended to be permanent, lest one be accused of bargaining in bad faith.

I&#039;m a hyper-rationalist.  Contracts should be enforced as written, not as intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#52 &#8211; That just means the American legal system doesn&#8217;t work the way I think it should.  That&#8217;s what the contract says; that&#8217;s what it should mean.  Especially if you can demonstrate that the change to Anaheim wasn&#8217;t intended to be permanent, lest one be accused of bargaining in bad faith.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a hyper-rationalist.  Contracts should be enforced as written, not as intended.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what will the team be called in the standings column?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what will the team be called in the standings column?</p>
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		<title>By: wabbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>wabbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This name change is as silly and done for the same reasons (and will last as long) as &quot;The Chicago Bears presented by BankOne&quot; or whatever that nonsense was a years ago. The Bears couldn&#039;t sell stadium naming rights because it was a memorial stadium. So they sold the team name instead. It didn&#039;t last long and neither will this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This name change is as silly and done for the same reasons (and will last as long) as &#8220;The Chicago Bears presented by BankOne&#8221; or whatever that nonsense was a years ago. The Bears couldn&#8217;t sell stadium naming rights because it was a memorial stadium. So they sold the team name instead. It didn&#8217;t last long and neither will this.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know some of the new front office people for the Angels.  They are very smart, hardworking guys.  While I haven&#039;t talked to them personally about this, there is a method here.

It is all about the TV dollars.  In the number two market in the US, you are not going to see Chubby and Tubby advertising on a broadcast.  They are fighting for national ad dollars (mostly from NY and Chicago).

If they have a good product on the field they will get the ratings and 25 year old MaryLou media buyer will spend some money with them.  If you are sitting in NY and you see ratings for the LA Angels at 8.0 and the LA Dodgers at 7.5, it makes sense to spend some money with the Angels.

They will sell there share of the tickets.  They already did last year.  By the time the Dodgers ownership is finished making their mess, the Angels will own over 50% of the market (TV, Radio and Tickets).  Pretty good for a team from Anaheim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know some of the new front office people for the Angels.  They are very smart, hardworking guys.  While I haven&#8217;t talked to them personally about this, there is a method here.</p>
<p>It is all about the TV dollars.  In the number two market in the US, you are not going to see Chubby and Tubby advertising on a broadcast.  They are fighting for national ad dollars (mostly from NY and Chicago).</p>
<p>If they have a good product on the field they will get the ratings and 25 year old MaryLou media buyer will spend some money with them.  If you are sitting in NY and you see ratings for the LA Angels at 8.0 and the LA Dodgers at 7.5, it makes sense to spend some money with the Angels.</p>
<p>They will sell there share of the tickets.  They already did last year.  By the time the Dodgers ownership is finished making their mess, the Angels will own over 50% of the market (TV, Radio and Tickets).  Pretty good for a team from Anaheim.</p>
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		<title>By: J.R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodger Blues reaction:

&quot;The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim? Let&#039;s at least be honest and call them the Los Angeles Parasites of Anaheim. How long before the Anaheim stadium grounds becomes &#039;Chavez Ravine&#039;? How long before Rex Hudler starts going by the name &#039;Vinny&#039;? How long before the Angels retire Sandy Koufax&#039;s number? How long before Dave Spiwack is pitching for the Angels at Dodger Stadium with Leslie Neilsen calling balls and strikes?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodger Blues reaction:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim? Let&#8217;s at least be honest and call them the Los Angeles Parasites of Anaheim. How long before the Anaheim stadium grounds becomes &#8216;Chavez Ravine&#8217;? How long before Rex Hudler starts going by the name &#8216;Vinny&#8217;? How long before the Angels retire Sandy Koufax&#8217;s number? How long before Dave Spiwack is pitching for the Angels at Dodger Stadium with Leslie Neilsen calling balls and strikes?&#8221;</p>
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