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		<title>By: Brenda Berstler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda Berstler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2005 19:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m delighted your stay at the Landmark Inn was pleasant, especially in light of what seems to be an otherwise mediocre trip. Please know that there are many other equally comfortable bed and breakfasts within the village of Cooperstown, lest anyone think that their only alternative is a chain motel.

As a point of clarification, B&amp;Bs serve only breakfast. By village ordinance they are not allowed to serve lunch or dinner. Also, in reference to one of your messages, the building that now houses the Fenimore Art Museum was never home to James Fenimore Cooper, being built many years after his death. It was built as a private residence for one of the Clark family, who unfortunately died before ever living there.

For anyone planning a trip to Cooperstown, I would be happy to guide you to better dining, superior accommodations and a number of shops that sell fine goods and nothing baseball related. Autumn is a beautiful time to visit.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m delighted your stay at the Landmark Inn was pleasant, especially in light of what seems to be an otherwise mediocre trip. Please know that there are many other equally comfortable bed and breakfasts within the village of Cooperstown, lest anyone think that their only alternative is a chain motel.</p>
<p>As a point of clarification, B&amp;Bs serve only breakfast. By village ordinance they are not allowed to serve lunch or dinner. Also, in reference to one of your messages, the building that now houses the Fenimore Art Museum was never home to James Fenimore Cooper, being built many years after his death. It was built as a private residence for one of the Clark family, who unfortunately died before ever living there.</p>
<p>For anyone planning a trip to Cooperstown, I would be happy to guide you to better dining, superior accommodations and a number of shops that sell fine goods and nothing baseball related. Autumn is a beautiful time to visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, just came across your website.  I&#039;m the fan that made the Ichi-meter that is on display with the Ichiro stuff.  I went to Cooperstown in December 2004 for the first time.  I was impressed with the amount of historical items on display.  I have heard that it is quite a madhouse to visit in the summer and was glad that I was there in the dead of winter so I could leisurely browse everything at my own pace.  My husband photographed nearly everything.  The town is pretty much closed down in the winter, so the only other thing we saw besides the HoF was the Art Museum.  It was right on Lake Ostego and it was inside what used to be James Fenimore Cooper&#039;s mansion.  It was a pretty nice place.  I hadn&#039;t planned on going there, as my trip to Cooperstown was to see my sign in the HoF. I would suggest visiting there if you have the time.  
I have pictures of the Ichiro display on my website if anyone is interested: http://www.badtwothebone.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, just came across your website.  I&#8217;m the fan that made the Ichi-meter that is on display with the Ichiro stuff.  I went to Cooperstown in December 2004 for the first time.  I was impressed with the amount of historical items on display.  I have heard that it is quite a madhouse to visit in the summer and was glad that I was there in the dead of winter so I could leisurely browse everything at my own pace.  My husband photographed nearly everything.  The town is pretty much closed down in the winter, so the only other thing we saw besides the HoF was the Art Museum.  It was right on Lake Ostego and it was inside what used to be James Fenimore Cooper&#8217;s mansion.  It was a pretty nice place.  I hadn&#8217;t planned on going there, as my trip to Cooperstown was to see my sign in the HoF. I would suggest visiting there if you have the time.<br />
I have pictures of the Ichiro display on my website if anyone is interested: <a href="http://www.badtwothebone.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.badtwothebone.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 21:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Derek did you bother to wander off main street at all? There are some great examples of 1920-1940Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s architecture off them main drag.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, I did.

I&#039;m all for cute houses and all, but it&#039;s not interesting enough to me to spend all that much time on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Derek did you bother to wander off main street at all? There are some great examples of 1920-1940Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s architecture off them main drag.</em></p>
<p>Yes, I did.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for cute houses and all, but it&#8217;s not interesting enough to me to spend all that much time on.</p>
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		<title>By: Knuckles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 13:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...it&#039;s easy to get breweried out&quot;?

I don&#039;t know about that. I&#039;ve been working on it for the better part of two decades, and I&#039;m still going strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;it&#8217;s easy to get breweried out&#8221;?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about that. I&#8217;ve been working on it for the better part of two decades, and I&#8217;m still going strong.</p>
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		<title>By: tvwxman</title>
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		<dc:creator>tvwxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d echo Aaron in #4. I was a graduate of Ithaca College and also spent an additional year working in nearby Elmira. A group of my friends would go before opening day every year, and it was hit-or-miss. 

I too was unimpressed with the plaques, and was disapointed with the lack of Mariners items on display. However, in fairness, it was pre-1995, so the M&#039;s weren&#039;t really more than a pathetic footnote in the MLB history at the time. 

With a group of friends, it&#039;s a lot different and more enjoyable. However, my dad and I had a great trip there one summer. He had never been, so it was fun to go with him and talk about the players from his days. Plus, I was over 21, so we were able to hit a few microbreweries in the area. I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d go with my wife. 

Oh, as far as the rental car goes, two words: Satellite Radio. It&#039;s your best friend driving in rural areas. Heck, it&#039;s a blessing here in Atlanta too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d echo Aaron in #4. I was a graduate of Ithaca College and also spent an additional year working in nearby Elmira. A group of my friends would go before opening day every year, and it was hit-or-miss. </p>
<p>I too was unimpressed with the plaques, and was disapointed with the lack of Mariners items on display. However, in fairness, it was pre-1995, so the M&#8217;s weren&#8217;t really more than a pathetic footnote in the MLB history at the time. </p>
<p>With a group of friends, it&#8217;s a lot different and more enjoyable. However, my dad and I had a great trip there one summer. He had never been, so it was fun to go with him and talk about the players from his days. Plus, I was over 21, so we were able to hit a few microbreweries in the area. I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d go with my wife. </p>
<p>Oh, as far as the rental car goes, two words: Satellite Radio. It&#8217;s your best friend driving in rural areas. Heck, it&#8217;s a blessing here in Atlanta too.</p>
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		<title>By: David Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 06:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been an avid reader for well over a year now, but this is the first time I&#039;ve ever commented...the Hall does this to me I guess.

I went for pretty much a full day with my dad several years back (1996 or 1997) when I was a teenager - we were visiting relatives in Ithica and decided to take a Father/Son day to visit the Hall.
It was before the McGwire/Sosa HR chase, before Bonds really rose to prominence, and before most of the Mariner highlights, save 1995.

Maybe it was my relative youth, but I was blown away by the Hall.
Certainly, the lack of &quot;renovation&quot; happening must have had something to do with it.  I remember room after room of exhibits - a full room chronicling the early days (pre-1900) complete with gloves, uniforms, etc...even a full suit worn by the umpires of the day.

A huge wing on the Negro Leagues, full of names that sadly I can&#039;t remember off the top of my head anymore, but reinforcing the travesty that those players weren&#039;t able to match wits with the MLB players of the era.

Another huge wing on Umpires from pre-1900 to present-day, which was actually quite cool.  There were other historical section wings as well, dedicated to each era (pre-AL/NL merge, WWII-era, then each decade from 1950 on).  I remember this big display of baseball cards as well, complete with a Honus Wagner card (I don&#039;t think it was THE card though).  There was also a cool section with models of all the real old-time stadiums (Polo Grounds, something in Philly, etc) from the 1900&#039;s.

Then the records section, the no-hitters, etc.  There was a neat display on Williams&#039; .400 season where they had a color-coded series of balls showing his average at each part of the plate.
I agree with your assessment of the Team Section - I don&#039;t remember being blown away.  There were some cool Mariner things, like Griffey/RJ/Edgar items, and items from each team, but it didn&#039;t have the magic of the rest of the place.

Lots more too...while we were only there for a day, we could have stayed several more.
I think you&#039;re right, about half the place wasn&#039;t accssible to you.  I thought the Hall was an incredible tribute to baseball lore and legacy when I was there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been an avid reader for well over a year now, but this is the first time I&#8217;ve ever commented&#8230;the Hall does this to me I guess.</p>
<p>I went for pretty much a full day with my dad several years back (1996 or 1997) when I was a teenager &#8211; we were visiting relatives in Ithica and decided to take a Father/Son day to visit the Hall.<br />
It was before the McGwire/Sosa HR chase, before Bonds really rose to prominence, and before most of the Mariner highlights, save 1995.</p>
<p>Maybe it was my relative youth, but I was blown away by the Hall.<br />
Certainly, the lack of &#8220;renovation&#8221; happening must have had something to do with it.  I remember room after room of exhibits &#8211; a full room chronicling the early days (pre-1900) complete with gloves, uniforms, etc&#8230;even a full suit worn by the umpires of the day.</p>
<p>A huge wing on the Negro Leagues, full of names that sadly I can&#8217;t remember off the top of my head anymore, but reinforcing the travesty that those players weren&#8217;t able to match wits with the MLB players of the era.</p>
<p>Another huge wing on Umpires from pre-1900 to present-day, which was actually quite cool.  There were other historical section wings as well, dedicated to each era (pre-AL/NL merge, WWII-era, then each decade from 1950 on).  I remember this big display of baseball cards as well, complete with a Honus Wagner card (I don&#8217;t think it was THE card though).  There was also a cool section with models of all the real old-time stadiums (Polo Grounds, something in Philly, etc) from the 1900&#8242;s.</p>
<p>Then the records section, the no-hitters, etc.  There was a neat display on Williams&#8217; .400 season where they had a color-coded series of balls showing his average at each part of the plate.<br />
I agree with your assessment of the Team Section &#8211; I don&#8217;t remember being blown away.  There were some cool Mariner things, like Griffey/RJ/Edgar items, and items from each team, but it didn&#8217;t have the magic of the rest of the place.</p>
<p>Lots more too&#8230;while we were only there for a day, we could have stayed several more.<br />
I think you&#8217;re right, about half the place wasn&#8217;t accssible to you.  I thought the Hall was an incredible tribute to baseball lore and legacy when I was there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Thomsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Thomsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 02:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To live in this town, you must be toughtoughtoughtoughTOUGH ....</description>
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		<title>By: Theodicus Groot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theodicus Groot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went in 1972.  It was surprising how dingy and moth-eaten the place was.  It certainly needed a renovation or two (which might even place researches beyond the reach of tourists).  The traveling exhibits seem to show much more curatorial effort than the permanent exhibits.

How is the HoF funded?  One gets the impression that there hasn&#039;t been money to hire high-quality professional staff.  Hopefully that&#039;s the problem, because the alternative explaination, that it&#039;s just an old-boys&#039; club that doesn&#039;t care, would be most disappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went in 1972.  It was surprising how dingy and moth-eaten the place was.  It certainly needed a renovation or two (which might even place researches beyond the reach of tourists).  The traveling exhibits seem to show much more curatorial effort than the permanent exhibits.</p>
<p>How is the HoF funded?  One gets the impression that there hasn&#8217;t been money to hire high-quality professional staff.  Hopefully that&#8217;s the problem, because the alternative explaination, that it&#8217;s just an old-boys&#8217; club that doesn&#8217;t care, would be most disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 00:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cooperstown: a drinking town with a baseball problem.


I have to admit, the renovations made me really sad too when I was there a year ago.  I went to the HoF as a kid a few times, and I loved it.  That was what really first got me interested in baseball history, which has carried through to this day.  I would say that if at all possible, you should go back sometime after they&#039;re done -- I have really fond memories of the place, and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s all just the tinting of a child/teen&#039;s eyes.

My memory from that hallway with the letters on the wall that was more poignant was Buck Weaver&#039;s letter from 1953 or so still asking to be reinstated, and the reply of &quot;Sorry, no dice.&quot;

Is the baseball card room off-limits now?  That&#039;s a shame if so -- I&#039;m pretty sure it was still available last winter.  I love seeing how the cards evolved over the years, and just seeing the old pictures of players.

The historical stuff *is* great.  Though I was surprised at a distinct lack of stuff on Walter Johnson -- for crying out loud, he was one of the First Five!  I think they had, like, one of his gloves or something.  And yeah, wow -- the postseason room was exceptionally cool, including a neat display of tons of World Series rings -- I&#039;m surprised if that&#039;s closed off, hmm.

And yeah, I&#039;ll agree that Cooperstown in general seems better in the summer.  It&#039;s all nice and pretty and you can do stuff like go on boat rides around the lake at sunset and listen to people tell stories about the town.</description>
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<p>I have to admit, the renovations made me really sad too when I was there a year ago.  I went to the HoF as a kid a few times, and I loved it.  That was what really first got me interested in baseball history, which has carried through to this day.  I would say that if at all possible, you should go back sometime after they&#8217;re done &#8212; I have really fond memories of the place, and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s all just the tinting of a child/teen&#8217;s eyes.</p>
<p>My memory from that hallway with the letters on the wall that was more poignant was Buck Weaver&#8217;s letter from 1953 or so still asking to be reinstated, and the reply of &#8220;Sorry, no dice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is the baseball card room off-limits now?  That&#8217;s a shame if so &#8212; I&#8217;m pretty sure it was still available last winter.  I love seeing how the cards evolved over the years, and just seeing the old pictures of players.</p>
<p>The historical stuff *is* great.  Though I was surprised at a distinct lack of stuff on Walter Johnson &#8212; for crying out loud, he was one of the First Five!  I think they had, like, one of his gloves or something.  And yeah, wow &#8212; the postseason room was exceptionally cool, including a neat display of tons of World Series rings &#8212; I&#8217;m surprised if that&#8217;s closed off, hmm.</p>
<p>And yeah, I&#8217;ll agree that Cooperstown in general seems better in the summer.  It&#8217;s all nice and pretty and you can do stuff like go on boat rides around the lake at sunset and listen to people tell stories about the town.</p>
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		<title>By: Metz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 18:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek did you bother to wander off main street at all? There are some great examples of 1920-1940&#039;s architecture off them main drag. There&#039;s lots of beautiful mansions to admire. I was there a few days before Molitor &amp; Eck got enshrined and there were lots of people from all over the US. Lots of different caps and accents and ethnic backgrounds. I enjoyed the HOF because I got to combine my love of baseball with dispensing historical stories to my kids. Maybe you have to see the HOF through a childs eyes to really appreciate it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek did you bother to wander off main street at all? There are some great examples of 1920-1940&#8242;s architecture off them main drag. There&#8217;s lots of beautiful mansions to admire. I was there a few days before Molitor &amp; Eck got enshrined and there were lots of people from all over the US. Lots of different caps and accents and ethnic backgrounds. I enjoyed the HOF because I got to combine my love of baseball with dispensing historical stories to my kids. Maybe you have to see the HOF through a childs eyes to really appreciate it?</p>
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