Comments on: Game 59, Mariners at Nationals

By: kittydog

kittydog — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 23:29:15 +0000

Quoted:
They flat DO NOT like each other.
Oh yeah, these bitter rivarlries are so enthralling.

Don’t forget that the natural rivals for the Nationals are the Blue Jays.

By: Felixfastfreight

Felixfastfreight — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 18:44:51 +0000

why trade Morse? every “valuble” trade commodity is usually valuble because they’re worth something to every team, including yours. he’s playing fairly well against ML competition, and though the jury is out on whether he’s the answer long term, its worth keeping him just to see what kind of player he will be. at the very least he’d make a good bench player (somthing this organization sorely lacks at the moment) so whether he sticks at short or not he fills a need. get rid of guys who arn’t helping us, like Nelson and Thornton..you could probably pick up something for him; not many lefties can bring it at 95.

By: Brett Farve

Brett Farve — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:12:34 +0000

So … do the M’s trade Morse while he is hot?

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 14:19:37 +0000

There is nothing more for Bentancourt to learn on defense.

Give me a break.

So, considering one should start LEARNING MLB pitchers this year, instead of staring from the beginning next year, which do you prefer?

Do you just not understand the concept of a player being ready for the major leagues?

Putting an overmatched player in the major leagues and letting him get torn to pieces by pitchers is an awful, awful development idea. If you have any hope at all for Betancourt as a hitter (and I don’t have a whole lot, honestly), then you darn well better support letting him learn how to hit minor league pitching before you ask him to hit major league pitching.

By: mln

mln — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 13:39:36 +0000

Over at Metsgeek.com, they are talking about trading Kazuo Matsui (and cash) for Bret Boone. Who get’s the better of this deal?

What do you think of pitchers like Jae Seo or Heilman?

http://tinyurl.com/9hbbk

By: ray

ray — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 09:49:12 +0000

#214,
It’s only good to keep a player down if there is someone in his place. Morse and Bentancourt are both AAA. Pokey will probably return but will be gone next year. One of these guys has to be the SS next year. When these guys come up they still have to learn. There is nothing more for Bentancourt to learn on defense. On the other hand, Morse needs work. The bats are probably about the same. So, considering one should start LEARNING MLB pitchers this year, instead of staring from the beginning next year, which do you prefer? And I don’t think Dave is against calling up zero players because that wouldn’t make much sense either.

By: AK1984

AK1984 — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 08:40:20 +0000

Yeah, Dave, you are mostly right, seeing as how I do agree with you on how making rash moves and calling up half of the team down south is way too extreme, as well as that bringing up a player to early (e.g., Felix Hernandez) can stunt his development.

On a realistic note, when is Scott Spiezio going to return? While most nobody can stand “The Spaz,” it seems as if he can’t do any worse than Greg Dobbs. Also, once Dobbs gets shipped down to Tacoma, who is going to get the ax there . . . will Ramon Santiago become the next member of the Portland Beavers?

By: roger tang

roger tang — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 06:27:53 +0000

re 212

It’s not just a matter of comparing bats and fielding…aren’t you listening to what Dave’s saying? It’s whether calling a player up NOW is the right call. If a player can learn more at the minors than at the majors, then calling them up now is just not the right call.

And I’m not convinced that Betancourt, Lopez and Hernandez have learned all they can at Tacoma.

By: ray

ray — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:32:32 +0000

I know the irony of trading a hot pitcher in Sele for another pitcher but Sele is 35 and pitches like Franklin but more effective so far. If we can pull a Beane (hopefully with more success) maybe we can find team willing to give up a much younger unproven prospect for Sele. I know it sounds impossible but GMs have done worst things.

By: ray

ray — Sat, 11 Jun 2005 04:28:06 +0000

#207 why did you compare a relief pitcher to a SS?
Anyway, #208, Morse hit .250 in AAA, so there is not much else to say there. So which bat is more ready? And Bentancourt was hitting over .300 for the moth of May. His line looks bad because after not playing baseball for so long he was starting up again — so April numbers looked really bad. So we can agree, neither bat is going to light the world on fire. Now, let’s look at defense. In this case Bentancourt is superior (by a lot) to Morse. The scouts have said, blogers who have and haven’t seen him have said — so his defense is MLB ready and possibly MLB elite. I ask you who is really more ready: Morse or Bentancourt? There are no other options and it would be a waste to go get a guy when the M’s need pitching more. Pokey is really not needed — gone next year anyway. And Lopez is replacing Bonne. In this case, I think calling for Bentancourt is not ridiculous.

On the hand, FO being slow and not making the right calls is ridiculous. The FO has to realize the M’s can’t contend so they need to look at needs: pitching. Who has value vs who can be replaced. I think the list only includes Ibanez and Winn. Who can replace either one of them: Choo or Snelling (#1 choice). In addition, if Sele has 3 more starts like this, his value will go way up.