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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/09/game-recap-89/comment-page-2/#comment-57463</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 04:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No!!!  A last minute conflict - I was so bummed I seriously almost cried, but I&#039;m just glad someone who truly appreciated it got to use the ticket.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No!!!  A last minute conflict &#8211; I was so bummed I seriously almost cried, but I&#8217;m just glad someone who truly appreciated it got to use the ticket.</p>
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		<title>By: Bela Txadux</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/09/game-recap-89/comment-page-2/#comment-57380</link>
		<dc:creator>Bela Txadux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 03:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurie, if that was your seat, thanks mucho for the &#039;pass through.&#039; A great place to be on a great night.  You were there, weren&#039;r you??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurie, if that was your seat, thanks mucho for the &#8216;pass through.&#8217; A great place to be on a great night.  You were there, weren&#8217;r you??</p>
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		<title>By: RLaw</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/09/game-recap-89/comment-page-2/#comment-57209</link>
		<dc:creator>RLaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam in #12 said, &quot;I think he may be the best pitcher in the American League right now.

HeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s like a mix of Freddy Garcia and Pedro Martinez. &quot;

Re:  #15 - &quot;That is to say, he might become that, easily, but as of this moment, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know if you can say that. &quot;

A small nit to pick here with the response.  If he is the best in the AL right now, he is that whether or not we net-rats have it &quot;proven&quot; to us over 10 starts or two years or whatever.  He will not have become that *after* he proves it.  He will have proven something that has already been true.  I would say that Adam may not be far off in his comment.  I think he can say that.

Having watched him pitch a couple of times both in the minors and again last night, my intuition tells me that he is not there yet, but after maybe two more years of development, he will be.  I would certainly say, though, that Adam&#039;s position is a reasonable one.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam in #12 said, &#8220;I think he may be the best pitcher in the American League right now.</p>
<p>HeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s like a mix of Freddy Garcia and Pedro Martinez. &#8221;</p>
<p>Re:  #15 &#8211; &#8220;That is to say, he might become that, easily, but as of this moment, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know if you can say that. &#8221;</p>
<p>A small nit to pick here with the response.  If he is the best in the AL right now, he is that whether or not we net-rats have it &#8220;proven&#8221; to us over 10 starts or two years or whatever.  He will not have become that *after* he proves it.  He will have proven something that has already been true.  I would say that Adam may not be far off in his comment.  I think he can say that.</p>
<p>Having watched him pitch a couple of times both in the minors and again last night, my intuition tells me that he is not there yet, but after maybe two more years of development, he will be.  I would certainly say, though, that Adam&#8217;s position is a reasonable one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mords</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/09/game-recap-89/comment-page-2/#comment-57183</link>
		<dc:creator>Mords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 20:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tangent: David Locke accused Bud Selig of telling a Ã¢â‚¬Å“bold-faced lieÃ¢â‚¬Â. The expression is Ã¢â‚¬Å“bald-facedÃ¢â‚¬Â; bold face type, bald-faced lie. Locke is an illiterate boob.&quot;

Harsh. Maybe it was in writing.

Also, re: edit in 80, it looks like he was referring to the article cited two posts previously</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tangent: David Locke accused Bud Selig of telling a Ã¢â‚¬Å“bold-faced lieÃ¢â‚¬Â. The expression is Ã¢â‚¬Å“bald-facedÃ¢â‚¬Â; bold face type, bald-faced lie. Locke is an illiterate boob.&#8221;</p>
<p>Harsh. Maybe it was in writing.</p>
<p>Also, re: edit in 80, it looks like he was referring to the article cited two posts previously</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article...

This part is what it comes down to it seems:

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article&#8230;</p>
<p>This part is what it comes down to it seems:</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Malph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Malph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tangent: David Locke accused Bud Selig of telling a Ã¢â‚¬Å“bold-faced lieÃ¢â‚¬Â. The expression is Ã¢â‚¬Å“bald-facedÃ¢â‚¬Â; bold face type, bald-faced lie. Locke is an illiterate boob. &lt;/i&gt;

Wrong.  Both are acceptable alternative usages.  Actually bold-faced is the older term and bald-faced is a more recent variation.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/wftwarch.pl?050405

&quot;Illiterate boob&quot; is a very strong term and you ought not use it without having your facts right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Tangent: David Locke accused Bud Selig of telling a Ã¢â‚¬Å“bold-faced lieÃ¢â‚¬Â. The expression is Ã¢â‚¬Å“bald-facedÃ¢â‚¬Â; bold face type, bald-faced lie. Locke is an illiterate boob. </i></p>
<p>Wrong.  Both are acceptable alternative usages.  Actually bold-faced is the older term and bald-faced is a more recent variation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/wftwarch.pl?050405" rel="nofollow">http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/wftwarch.pl?050405</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Illiterate boob&#8221; is a very strong term and you ought not use it without having your facts right.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Andriesen had a nice &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/184053_felix29.html?searchpagefrom=1&amp;searchdiff=378&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;piece&lt;/a&gt; about him last year, talking about the competitiveness, confidence, maturity...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Andriesen had a nice <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/184053_felix29.html?searchpagefrom=1&amp;searchdiff=378" rel="nofollow">piece</a> about him last year, talking about the competitiveness, confidence, maturity&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope this kid has a work ethic....Don&#039;t turn into Bartolo on us...

The only thing that can hold this kid back is himself or an injury.

Awesome. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope this kid has a work ethic&#8230;.Don&#8217;t turn into Bartolo on us&#8230;</p>
<p>The only thing that can hold this kid back is himself or an injury.</p>
<p>Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
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		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yes, Rijo was abused, and had his career shortened by it. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s why heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not in the Hall. But he was a hell of a pitcher for a pretty long time.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m not arguing against that. He was lights-out from 1990-94. It&#039;s just too bad he was so abused so young and lost those six years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yes, Rijo was abused, and had his career shortened by it. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s why heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not in the Hall. But he was a hell of a pitcher for a pretty long time.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not arguing against that. He was lights-out from 1990-94. It&#8217;s just too bad he was so abused so young and lost those six years.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Thornton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Rijo was abused, and had his career shortened by it. That&#039;s why he&#039;s not in the Hall. But he was a hell of a pitcher for a pretty long time. If Felix turns out to be a shade short of Maddux or Pedro, I&#039;ll still be well satisfied.

I do wonder if he&#039;s going to turn out to be, uh, a bit fat. There&#039;s a hint of a gut there, and he&#039;s only 19. I hope he can stay away from the Fernando Valenzuela training program.

Note: Felix is now the 11th-ranked rookie pitcher in the AL, by VORP. After two starts. Next up: Fernando Rodney, with 24 innings of stupid relief, and Chris Young, with more than 11 times as many starts as Felix. If Felix gets nine or ten more like this, he&#039;ll be challenging Blanton, Street, and Chacin for the top. Probably too late for RoY, but DAMN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Rijo was abused, and had his career shortened by it. That&#8217;s why he&#8217;s not in the Hall. But he was a hell of a pitcher for a pretty long time. If Felix turns out to be a shade short of Maddux or Pedro, I&#8217;ll still be well satisfied.</p>
<p>I do wonder if he&#8217;s going to turn out to be, uh, a bit fat. There&#8217;s a hint of a gut there, and he&#8217;s only 19. I hope he can stay away from the Fernando Valenzuela training program.</p>
<p>Note: Felix is now the 11th-ranked rookie pitcher in the AL, by VORP. After two starts. Next up: Fernando Rodney, with 24 innings of stupid relief, and Chris Young, with more than 11 times as many starts as Felix. If Felix gets nine or ten more like this, he&#8217;ll be challenging Blanton, Street, and Chacin for the top. Probably too late for RoY, but DAMN.</p>
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