Comments on: The Attrition War, Tigers http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/27/the-attrition-war-tigers/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:19:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: TeacherRefPoet http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/27/the-attrition-war-tigers/comment-page-1/#comment-64268 TeacherRefPoet Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:13:53 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2928#comment-64268 Whiteside had TJ surgery while at UNC-Charlotte. (I see you remarked on college surgery for Henkel, so I thought I'd throw that in.) Whiteside had TJ surgery while at UNC-Charlotte. (I see you remarked on college surgery for Henkel, so I thought I’d throw that in.)

]]> By: TeacherRefPoet http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/27/the-attrition-war-tigers/comment-page-1/#comment-64262 TeacherRefPoet Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:02:41 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2928#comment-64262 Sean Whiteside is one of the players profiled in Rob Trucks' book -Cup of Coffee.- (I recommend the book...it's interviews with ten people who barely cracked the majors...life stories of each of them. Kinda cool.) Long story short: as a pro, he only has some "tears in my cuff" operated on in November 1993, but he was pitching by the end of spring training 1994, so it doesn't meet your criteria. After that, no surgery. Here's a year-by-year summary since 1995: 1995: Pitches 3 2/3 innings for Detroit. ERA is 14.73. He never makes it back to the Tigers...finishes the year in AA Jacksonville. He goes on the DL for tendinitis--Whiteside says unjustly. No major surgery. 1996: Gets sent to AA Jacksonville. He doesn't like the manager and feels like he's not getting enough innings. Asks to be demoted to A Lakeland. Pitches there, and gets promoted back to Jacksonville when they change managers to Larry Parrish. 1997: AA Memphis. No big surgeries, but "my arm never really felt right and I kept rehabbing." 1998: Claimed as Rule V acquisition by Yankees, but released in spring training. Calls it quits when he doesn't hook on anywhere else. Amazed I could actually contribute! Sean Whiteside is one of the players profiled in Rob Trucks’ book -Cup of Coffee.- (I recommend the book…it’s interviews with ten people who barely cracked the majors…life stories of each of them. Kinda cool.)

Long story short: as a pro, he only has some “tears in my cuff” operated on in November 1993, but he was pitching by the end of spring training 1994, so it doesn’t meet your criteria. After that, no surgery.

Here’s a year-by-year summary since 1995:

1995: Pitches 3 2/3 innings for Detroit. ERA is 14.73. He never makes it back to the Tigers…finishes the year in AA Jacksonville. He goes on the DL for tendinitis–Whiteside says unjustly. No major surgery.

1996: Gets sent to AA Jacksonville. He doesn’t like the manager and feels like he’s not getting enough innings. Asks to be demoted to A Lakeland. Pitches there, and gets promoted back to Jacksonville when they change managers to Larry Parrish.

1997: AA Memphis. No big surgeries, but “my arm never really felt right and I kept rehabbing.”

1998: Claimed as Rule V acquisition by Yankees, but released in spring training. Calls it quits when he doesn’t hook on anywhere else.

Amazed I could actually contribute!

]]> By: Rusty http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/27/the-attrition-war-tigers/comment-page-1/#comment-64255 Rusty Sun, 28 Aug 2005 05:11:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2928#comment-64255 Matt Anderson circa 2002, was out for an extended period of time with, I believe, an arm injury. In 2001 he was pitching 99 and even 100 mph. He never came back with that velocity again. Can't remember if there was any specific injury or surgery involved. Matt Anderson circa 2002, was out for an extended period of time with, I believe, an arm injury. In 2001 he was pitching 99 and even 100 mph. He never came back with that velocity again. Can’t remember if there was any specific injury or surgery involved.

]]> By: David C http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/27/the-attrition-war-tigers/comment-page-1/#comment-64140 David C Sun, 28 Aug 2005 04:01:28 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2928#comment-64140 Mike Drumright (as of 2003) - no mention of injury [i]Soon to be 29-year-old right-hander who made 21 starts with a 3.41 ERA for Rochester last season. Was acquired by the Orioles from the Red Sox for SS Nick Garcia early in the 2002 season. Former 1st round pick of the Tigers in ’95. Sinkerballer. Reportedly has a decent fastball, but below major league-average off speed stuff. Was named the top pitching prospect in the Southern League in 1996 by Baseball America, but since then has suffered through a number of poor or unlucky seasons. Lead the International League with 19 losses in 1998 with Toledo, returned to Toledo in 1999 and went 6-10, and had a combined 5-13 record between Portland (AA) and Calgary (AAA) despite a 3.98 ERA.[/i] Mike Drumright (as of 2003) – no mention of injury

[i]Soon to be 29-year-old right-hander who made 21 starts with a 3.41 ERA for Rochester last season. Was acquired by the Orioles from the Red Sox for SS Nick Garcia early in the 2002 season. Former 1st round pick of the Tigers in ’95. Sinkerballer. Reportedly has a decent fastball, but below major league-average off speed stuff. Was named the top pitching prospect in the Southern League in 1996 by Baseball America, but since then has suffered through a number of poor or unlucky seasons. Lead the International League with 19 losses in 1998 with Toledo, returned to Toledo in 1999 and went 6-10, and had a combined 5-13 record between Portland (AA) and Calgary (AAA) despite a 3.98 ERA.[/i]

]]> By: David C http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/27/the-attrition-war-tigers/comment-page-1/#comment-64133 David C Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:54:46 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2928#comment-64133 Cade Gaspar Traded March 22, 1996 with Sean Bergman & Todd Steverson to the San Diego Padres. Received back Raul Casanova, Richie Lewis, and Melvin Nieves. It appears that he played for Quakes in 96 then RETIRED Cade Gaspar Traded March 22, 1996 with Sean Bergman & Todd Steverson to the San Diego Padres. Received back Raul Casanova, Richie Lewis, and Melvin Nieves.
It appears that he played for Quakes in 96 then RETIRED

]]> By: Saint Jimmy http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/08/27/the-attrition-war-tigers/comment-page-1/#comment-64123 Saint Jimmy Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:42:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=2928#comment-64123 Excerpt from <a>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8294-2005Mar4.html</a> <i>After undergoing the elbow surgery in June 1999, Greisinger missed all of 2000 and 2001. He returned in 2002, made it back to the majors, and then had shoulder problems. More surgery. He pitched at Class AAA Toledo in 2003, and then made it to the majors with the Minnesota Twins last year. He struggled a bit, was sent to the minors, and before he could be called up to help in a pennant race, he broke his hand. In 41 major league games -- spanning 1998 to 2004 -- he is 10-16 with a 5.56 ERA.</i> Looks like he had TJ surgery...guess you can add him to the list. Excerpt from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8294-2005Mar4.html

After undergoing the elbow surgery in June 1999, Greisinger missed all of 2000 and 2001. He returned in 2002, made it back to the majors, and then had shoulder problems. More surgery. He pitched at Class AAA Toledo in 2003, and then made it to the majors with the Minnesota Twins last year. He struggled a bit, was sent to the minors, and before he could be called up to help in a pennant race, he broke his hand. In 41 major league games — spanning 1998 to 2004 — he is 10-16 with a 5.56 ERA.

Looks like he had TJ surgery…guess you can add him to the list.

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