Comments on: Jacque Jones

By: JI

JI — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:27:04 +0000

I’m not very high on Jones, but in theory, on a team that could handle the responsibility of platooning him, he’d be a decent fallback plan. Unforunately on the Mariners, you can count on Grover letting him swing the bat v. a LHP in the bottom of 8th with runners on 2nd and 3rd…

By: jack howland

jack howland — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 23:54:14 +0000

I guess I don’t agree that Jones will be a 40 VORP. Assuming that he plays 74% of the time all against righties I estimate him getting approximately 518 PAs. I think that 25 would be a high end VORP prediction. Of course I am not factoring in defense. Perhaps I haven’t figured this out right, if so please show me where I went wrong.

By: Long Suffering

Long Suffering — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 22:35:30 +0000

Where did you get 3M for the other platoon? It isn’t algebra, you don’t just say Jones at 2/3 for 6M ergo player X at 1/3 for 3M. First off, it’s more of a 3/4 to 1/4 split. Secondly, salaries aren’t linear, Marcus Thames is a good example. There are plenty of people out there that can be had for ~500K. Call it 7M just for S&G for Jones at 40 VORP and player X for 5 VORP. That’s 45 VORP or about 4.5 wins for 7M. 4.5 wins is worth about 9M in salary.

By: jack howland

jack howland — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:12:45 +0000

I don’t see the attraction with Jones at $6M although I do think he may get that kind of a contract with someone:

1) His offensive numbers have significantly declined over the last two seasons compared to his 2002 and 2003 seasons. He should have been coming into his prime in 2004 and 2005.

2) He is particularly unselective at the plate. Or as Ron Fairly likes to say “you don’t walk your way off the island”.

3) Assuming that the other 1/3 of the platoon costs $3M, we will have spent $9M for a left field tandem that is about offensively league average.

By: Daryl

Daryl — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 06:08:48 +0000

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By: Daryl

Daryl — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 05:58:27 +0000

I was thinking Aubrey Huff myself #227. He’s left handed, a year or two younger than Jones, and with only one year left on his contract at around $7 million the D-Rays are reportedly ready to move him. I would hope that we would atleast check out what they are asking for him. I would be willing to send a Cha Sung Baek or two there way if that would do the trick.

By: msb

msb — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:56:22 +0000

I’ll be curious to see who gets Comeback Player from the Sporting News and from the Players Assn….

By: Jake L.

Jake L. — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 20:59:52 +0000

One plus about trying to acquire Aubrey Huff or Carl Crawford from Tampa: no crazy GM there that would demand King Felix in return. I believe a shadow has been lifted from above Tropicana Field……

By: Long Suffering

Long Suffering — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 20:52:33 +0000

There’s no push to get Matsui, either he resigns with NYY or he hits waivers. If he hits waivers he likely goes to us because we’d be willing to pay him what he wants. If he decides to play in Seattle, he does, if not, back to Japan. The Ms don’t need/can’t do anything to increase our chances of getting him.

By: Chris Miller

Chris Miller — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 20:43:39 +0000

We should REALLY push to get Hideki Matsui. Great LF defense, good offense, probably a good Safeco fit, AND he’s japanese!!!! Chances are slim to none of course, but would be worth a big push.