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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/12/15/thursday-fallout-and-now-forward/comment-page-3/#comment-82732</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joealb,

You bring up a good point.  Based on OPS and other factors Travis Lee might have been a better solution.  My guess is the M&#039;s didn&#039;t want to introduce their new &quot;left handed hitter with sock&quot; as a guy who most casual fans have never heard of and who hit 12 HR last year.  Also, he wasn&#039;t hand-selected by Hargrove if that was in fact true (do you sense Mike getting hung with the L if Carl blows up - how convenient for Bavasi).  Also, I really think the Mariners FO and Hargrove feels the M&#039;s are &quot;soft&quot; and so Everett is a statement and was brought in to get the players&#039; attention.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joealb,</p>
<p>You bring up a good point.  Based on OPS and other factors Travis Lee might have been a better solution.  My guess is the M&#8217;s didn&#8217;t want to introduce their new &#8220;left handed hitter with sock&#8221; as a guy who most casual fans have never heard of and who hit 12 HR last year.  Also, he wasn&#8217;t hand-selected by Hargrove if that was in fact true (do you sense Mike getting hung with the L if Carl blows up &#8211; how convenient for Bavasi).  Also, I really think the Mariners FO and Hargrove feels the M&#8217;s are &#8220;soft&#8221; and so Everett is a statement and was brought in to get the players&#8217; attention.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/12/15/thursday-fallout-and-now-forward/comment-page-3/#comment-82704</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m updating the citation thing.</description>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Ramm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Ramm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, you&#039;re wrong and you&#039;re not a lawyer.  Stop playing one.

You&#039;ve totally misinterpreted inaccurate citations from journalists who don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about and deleted posts that could explain the difference.

Everett was not criminally &quot;charged&quot; with anything so far as I can tell, even from the cites you posted.  Child protection agencies don&#039;t &quot;charge&quot; anyone with anything.  They file civil petitions.  It&#039;s this way in New York too.

http://www.ocfs.state.ny.us/main/prevention/faqs.asp
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, you&#8217;re wrong and you&#8217;re not a lawyer.  Stop playing one.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve totally misinterpreted inaccurate citations from journalists who don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about and deleted posts that could explain the difference.</p>
<p>Everett was not criminally &#8220;charged&#8221; with anything so far as I can tell, even from the cites you posted.  Child protection agencies don&#8217;t &#8220;charge&#8221; anyone with anything.  They file civil petitions.  It&#8217;s this way in New York too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ocfs.state.ny.us/main/prevention/faqs.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ocfs.state.ny.us/main/prevention/faqs.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: joealb</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/12/15/thursday-fallout-and-now-forward/comment-page-3/#comment-82694</link>
		<dc:creator>joealb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to keep bringing this up but for Rich and all the other &quot;If not Carl then who else people&quot; there is Burnitz AND Travis Lee. Lee can&#039;t play the OF but neither can Carl and he is only 30 years old. Oh, and in 404 AB&#039;s his line was .272 .331 .426 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to keep bringing this up but for Rich and all the other &#8220;If not Carl then who else people&#8221; there is Burnitz AND Travis Lee. Lee can&#8217;t play the OF but neither can Carl and he is only 30 years old. Oh, and in 404 AB&#8217;s his line was .272 .331 .426</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my local birdcage liner is an AP story by Gregg Bell that offers the following BB quotes:

&quot;Today we achieved one of our off-season goals.  Carl Everett is a clutch-hitting run producer with power.&quot;  (He IS a clutch hitting run producer?  As in the current tense?)

&quot;His experience and intensity will be welcome additions to our clubhouse.&quot;  (I&#039;d love to know how that comment went over with some of the other players)

CE &quot;would break up any monotony or boredom...and that&#039;s good.&quot;  (That may not be the ONLY thing he breaks...)

But all that aside, there are many ways to motivate or provide some leadership.  And, um...well...Carl has some, er different ways of doing that.  2006 may not see many wins, but it probably won&#039;t be dull!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my local birdcage liner is an AP story by Gregg Bell that offers the following BB quotes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Today we achieved one of our off-season goals.  Carl Everett is a clutch-hitting run producer with power.&#8221;  (He IS a clutch hitting run producer?  As in the current tense?)</p>
<p>&#8220;His experience and intensity will be welcome additions to our clubhouse.&#8221;  (I&#8217;d love to know how that comment went over with some of the other players)</p>
<p>CE &#8220;would break up any monotony or boredom&#8230;and that&#8217;s good.&#8221;  (That may not be the ONLY thing he breaks&#8230;)</p>
<p>But all that aside, there are many ways to motivate or provide some leadership.  And, um&#8230;well&#8230;Carl has some, er different ways of doing that.  2006 may not see many wins, but it probably won&#8217;t be dull!</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Spiezio eat the tattoos?  That might explain a lot.</description>
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		<title>By: firova</title>
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		<dc:creator>firova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can only hope that Everett does not subscribe to the Sandfrog diet of beer and tattoos. Spiezio&#039;s inattention to diet and training probably cost him a baseball career. (He hasn&#039;t signed anywhere that I can see.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can only hope that Everett does not subscribe to the Sandfrog diet of beer and tattoos. Spiezio&#8217;s inattention to diet and training probably cost him a baseball career. (He hasn&#8217;t signed anywhere that I can see.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough. My bad. </description>
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		<title>By: Dave Sund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Sund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair point Jeff, but Spiezio won the WS in 2002.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because I was out of town and didn&#039;t get to drop my take on the Everett signing, chew on this. These stats are each from a veteran switch-hitter the year his team won the World Series. The subsequent year, each was signed by the Mariners.

AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS
.265 	.326 	.453 	.779
.251 	.311 	.435 	.746

As you can probably guess, player B is Carl Everett. Player A? That&#039;s Scott Spiezio in 2003. And remember, Spiezio&#039;s younger than Everett. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because I was out of town and didn&#8217;t get to drop my take on the Everett signing, chew on this. These stats are each from a veteran switch-hitter the year his team won the World Series. The subsequent year, each was signed by the Mariners.</p>
<p>AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS<br />
.265 	.326 	.453 	.779<br />
.251 	.311 	.435 	.746</p>
<p>As you can probably guess, player B is Carl Everett. Player A? That&#8217;s Scott Spiezio in 2003. And remember, Spiezio&#8217;s younger than Everett.</p>
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