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	<title>Comments on: Times reports Washburn deal is done pending physical</title>
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		<title>By: jarrod washburn</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/12/16/times-reports-washburn-deal-is-done-pending-physical/comment-page-2/#comment-83394</link>
		<dc:creator>jarrod washburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you guys ripping me up I am worth $40 million. That aint that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you guys ripping me up I am worth $40 million. That aint that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Benish</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/12/16/times-reports-washburn-deal-is-done-pending-physical/comment-page-2/#comment-83099</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Benish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Add it up, and Bavasi lucked into Johjima because of the teamÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Japan connections and made a bunch of other mediocre to terrible decisions...&quot;

Derek I think this is very accurate and on point...The downside which is maybe not so apparent is that Johjima&#039;s jury is still out...I&#039;ve read that his footwork in throwing needs to be fixed and his armstrength is average.  None of which we&#039;ll know the validity of, until we see him play and adjust to this level of baseball.

The past two years and this off season has taken on the aspects of two movies, &quot;Groundhog Day&quot; and &quot;Major League&quot;...

There is the suggestion that BB does not rely so much on scouts nor stats in formulating his acquisitions so much as whether the player played for someone that touched his life at some point in his past with the Dodges or Angels.  No one thinks Everett or Washburn are top line or even average players.  Not scouts or sabremetricians.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Add it up, and Bavasi lucked into Johjima because of the teamÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Japan connections and made a bunch of other mediocre to terrible decisions&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Derek I think this is very accurate and on point&#8230;The downside which is maybe not so apparent is that Johjima&#8217;s jury is still out&#8230;I&#8217;ve read that his footwork in throwing needs to be fixed and his armstrength is average.  None of which we&#8217;ll know the validity of, until we see him play and adjust to this level of baseball.</p>
<p>The past two years and this off season has taken on the aspects of two movies, &#8220;Groundhog Day&#8221; and &#8220;Major League&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>There is the suggestion that BB does not rely so much on scouts nor stats in formulating his acquisitions so much as whether the player played for someone that touched his life at some point in his past with the Dodges or Angels.  No one thinks Everett or Washburn are top line or even average players.  Not scouts or sabremetricians.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like Adrian Beltre was the best signing off the off season last year, right guys?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like Adrian Beltre was the best signing off the off season last year, right guys?</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/12/16/times-reports-washburn-deal-is-done-pending-physical/comment-page-2/#comment-83055</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a Mariner&#039;s fan this offseason is somewhat like the hair removal scene in &quot;40 Year Old Virgin&quot;, I just keep seeing things that make me yell random curses &quot;Kelly Clarkson!!!!&quot;

Why so much money? Why so many years? Why Arroyo? Why are you bringing back the teal on the BP jerseys? Everett... say it ain&#039;t SoDo?

Maybe it is our seamnship connection, but I think we are becoming the big payroll version of the Cam Bonifay Pirates. Where every signing was based on a very limited scope of logic. Kevin Young, 1 decent year, let&#039;s sign him to a multi year deal with hopes that he will maintain or improve. Derek Bell, he&#039;s a proven winner, let&#039;s put Craig Wilson on the bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a Mariner&#8217;s fan this offseason is somewhat like the hair removal scene in &#8220;40 Year Old Virgin&#8221;, I just keep seeing things that make me yell random curses &#8220;Kelly Clarkson!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Why so much money? Why so many years? Why Arroyo? Why are you bringing back the teal on the BP jerseys? Everett&#8230; say it ain&#8217;t SoDo?</p>
<p>Maybe it is our seamnship connection, but I think we are becoming the big payroll version of the Cam Bonifay Pirates. Where every signing was based on a very limited scope of logic. Kevin Young, 1 decent year, let&#8217;s sign him to a multi year deal with hopes that he will maintain or improve. Derek Bell, he&#8217;s a proven winner, let&#8217;s put Craig Wilson on the bench.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31-- wow! two off-seasons in a row where Steve noticed what was going on-- must be a record. AND it only adds to my unease about the off-season that I actually agree with Steve Kelley about something.

Last year, you may recall, he made the bold statement that the Mariners had to spend money in the off-season (&quot;Let&#039;s be realists. There&#039;s a better chance of Mount Rainier erupting than the Mariners signing either center fielder Carlos Beltran or third baseman Adrian Beltre ... At first base, I&#039;d take Carlos Delgado over Richie Sexson. Both come with health questions ... Cory Koskie is a good, realistic choice at third base. He can hit .260 with 25-to-30 home runs and 70-to-85 RBI. And he&#039;s good in the clubhouse.&quot;)

It was also last year when he wrote &lt;em&gt;two&lt;/em&gt; columns that the Ms had to do something -- a big change from previous years where he boldly stepped out with columns about the proposed Alex/Boston deal, the Ã¢â‚¬ËœnewÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ Melvin, Spiezio &amp; his band, Rob Ramsay, the Melvin hire (Ã¢â‚¬Âborn to do itÃ¢â‚¬Â), Bryan Price, a Jan. &#039;03 column lamenting the fact they didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t sign Colon, Contreras or Paul Wilson to shore up the staff, a 116 game-love column, a Ã¢â‚¬â„¢shame on the Jays for hiring RicciardiÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ piece, a Buhner retirement piece, more on 116 wins, columns on Boone &amp; ShigeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31&#8211; wow! two off-seasons in a row where Steve noticed what was going on&#8211; must be a record. AND it only adds to my unease about the off-season that I actually agree with Steve Kelley about something.</p>
<p>Last year, you may recall, he made the bold statement that the Mariners had to spend money in the off-season (&#8220;Let&#8217;s be realists. There&#8217;s a better chance of Mount Rainier erupting than the Mariners signing either center fielder Carlos Beltran or third baseman Adrian Beltre &#8230; At first base, I&#8217;d take Carlos Delgado over Richie Sexson. Both come with health questions &#8230; Cory Koskie is a good, realistic choice at third base. He can hit .260 with 25-to-30 home runs and 70-to-85 RBI. And he&#8217;s good in the clubhouse.&#8221;)</p>
<p>It was also last year when he wrote <em>two</em> columns that the Ms had to do something &#8212; a big change from previous years where he boldly stepped out with columns about the proposed Alex/Boston deal, the Ã¢â‚¬ËœnewÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ Melvin, Spiezio &amp; his band, Rob Ramsay, the Melvin hire (Ã¢â‚¬Âborn to do itÃ¢â‚¬Â), Bryan Price, a Jan. &#8217;03 column lamenting the fact they didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t sign Colon, Contreras or Paul Wilson to shore up the staff, a 116 game-love column, a Ã¢â‚¬â„¢shame on the Jays for hiring RicciardiÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ piece, a Buhner retirement piece, more on 116 wins, columns on Boone &amp; ShigeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦</p>
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		<title>By: JOHNB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHNB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people over at Inside The Park love the move. Go figure!</description>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say to make my weekend complete Bill Bavasi will somehow take and fail my last final for me and then come to my room with a baseball bat and break my shit.  He&#039;ll also pee in the room, I&#039;d imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say to make my weekend complete Bill Bavasi will somehow take and fail my last final for me and then come to my room with a baseball bat and break my shit.  He&#8217;ll also pee in the room, I&#8217;d imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in......   ***********The Mariners will keep Gil Meche and only non-tender Ryan Franklin next week, according to the Seattle Times.**************</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in&#8230;&#8230;   ***********The Mariners will keep Gil Meche and only non-tender Ryan Franklin next week, according to the Seattle Times.**************</p>
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		<title>By: T-mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in agreement with #46...this is not an outrageous contract in the state of the game today.  Every team has more and more revenue from satellite radio and the Nationals expansion fees.  By the time the Washburn contract is up the M&#039;s will have new more lucrative deals from both KOMO and FSN...I think we should spend alot less time worrying about the money that you and I do not directly have to spend.  (Chris Lincoln and Howie can cash in some stock options and still be living fine in Medina).

Anything that gets Gil and Franklin off this team should be welcome....we should be WAY more concered about adding offense to a team that was 13th or 14th in the league in every category. 

Well that and a populous uprising to dethrown Rick Rizzs(the Scott McClellan of MLB--not so masterful at the positive spin/lying trash/criminal coverup)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in agreement with #46&#8230;this is not an outrageous contract in the state of the game today.  Every team has more and more revenue from satellite radio and the Nationals expansion fees.  By the time the Washburn contract is up the M&#8217;s will have new more lucrative deals from both KOMO and FSN&#8230;I think we should spend alot less time worrying about the money that you and I do not directly have to spend.  (Chris Lincoln and Howie can cash in some stock options and still be living fine in Medina).</p>
<p>Anything that gets Gil and Franklin off this team should be welcome&#8230;.we should be WAY more concered about adding offense to a team that was 13th or 14th in the league in every category. </p>
<p>Well that and a populous uprising to dethrown Rick Rizzs(the Scott McClellan of MLB&#8211;not so masterful at the positive spin/lying trash/criminal coverup)</p>
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		<title>By: Bela Txadux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bela Txadux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the indescribably awful Washburn signing following the smarmy nonsense of the Everett press conference, I was about to post up here with a screed the equivalent of my head exploding in a lateral plane (which would please some, I know).  Then, a small, pleasant voice of unreason said, &quot;No, wait until mid-January when _all_ the deals that are going to get done get done.  This is so bad a hit on the port rail there may be a &#039;good shoe&#039; left to drop on the starboard side to keep the old tub from turnin&#039; turtle.&quot;  And why not?  I can punt off the Mariners just as well 3+ weeks from now as I can at this moment, so.  I expect no improvement whatsoever, so if it comes it&#039;ll feel doubly good.  Till then, I&#039;ll just caper and larf.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the indescribably awful Washburn signing following the smarmy nonsense of the Everett press conference, I was about to post up here with a screed the equivalent of my head exploding in a lateral plane (which would please some, I know).  Then, a small, pleasant voice of unreason said, &#8220;No, wait until mid-January when _all_ the deals that are going to get done get done.  This is so bad a hit on the port rail there may be a &#8216;good shoe&#8217; left to drop on the starboard side to keep the old tub from turnin&#8217; turtle.&#8221;  And why not?  I can punt off the Mariners just as well 3+ weeks from now as I can at this moment, so.  I expect no improvement whatsoever, so if it comes it&#8217;ll feel doubly good.  Till then, I&#8217;ll just caper and larf.</p>
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