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		<title>By: BelaXadux</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/04/20/live-game-notes-2/comment-page-3/#comment-97649</link>
		<dc:creator>BelaXadux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Ichiro hits .750 for a month, he can definitely be President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Ichiro hits .750 for a month, he can definitely be President.</p>
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		<title>By: G-Man</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/04/20/live-game-notes-2/comment-page-3/#comment-97626</link>
		<dc:creator>G-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone is still reading this,...

Managers seem to manage in the ninth like there&#039;s no next inning. Hence, the PR for Richie. 

Earlier this month, there was abn instance when I was sure that Hargrove &lt;i&gt;should have&lt;/i&gt; used a PR but didn&#039;t.

It went something like this: Petagine PH for Betencourt in the 8th and reached first, then ws on second with two outs and the M&#039;s down by a few runs. Bloomquist HAD to come in to play SS the next half-inning, and there was no way Willie was going to PH for the top part of the order. Willie would have had a much better chance of scoring from 2nd on a single than Roberto, and he was detined to come in (and did) in that same slot in the batting order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is still reading this,&#8230;</p>
<p>Managers seem to manage in the ninth like there&#8217;s no next inning. Hence, the PR for Richie. </p>
<p>Earlier this month, there was abn instance when I was sure that Hargrove <i>should have</i> used a PR but didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It went something like this: Petagine PH for Betencourt in the 8th and reached first, then ws on second with two outs and the M&#8217;s down by a few runs. Bloomquist HAD to come in to play SS the next half-inning, and there was no way Willie was going to PH for the top part of the order. Willie would have had a much better chance of scoring from 2nd on a single than Roberto, and he was detined to come in (and did) in that same slot in the batting order.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Sox Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/04/20/live-game-notes-2/comment-page-3/#comment-97609</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Sox Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, sorry, I&#039;m stupid. Forgot that the article wouldn&#039;t have been written until the next day. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sorry, I&#8217;m stupid. Forgot that the article wouldn&#8217;t have been written until the next day. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/04/20/live-game-notes-2/comment-page-3/#comment-97608</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link is broke. Try this: 
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=240411111

It was the 11th, not the 12th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link is broke. Try this:<br />
<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=240411111" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=240411111</a></p>
<p>It was the 11th, not the 12th.</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#109: Break even = &quot;no net gain.&quot; So I say, stand there and don&#039;t risk giving away the out.

Anyway, the situation last night reminded me of two different games in recent Division Series games.

In game 3 of the 2004 ALDS, Red Sox vs Angels, David Ortiz walked with two out in the 8th inning with the score tied. ESPN analyst Rick Sutcliffe was all over Terry Francona for &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; running for Ortiz in this situation. Ã¢â‚¬Å“YouÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve got your closer in the game! YouÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve got to make something happen here!Ã¢â‚¬Â  The Angels got the last out and the game went into extra innings. 

Ortiz came up to bat in the 10th inning and won the game on a HR on the first pitch he saw from our old friend Jarrod Washburn.

Contrast that with game 4 of last yearÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s NLDS between the Braves and the Astros. It went &lt;i&gt;18 innings&lt;/i&gt; because the AstrosÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ manager, Phil Garner, took one of his best hitters, Lance Berkman, out of the lineup for a pinch runner with 2 out in the 10th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#109: Break even = &#8220;no net gain.&#8221; So I say, stand there and don&#8217;t risk giving away the out.</p>
<p>Anyway, the situation last night reminded me of two different games in recent Division Series games.</p>
<p>In game 3 of the 2004 ALDS, Red Sox vs Angels, David Ortiz walked with two out in the 8th inning with the score tied. ESPN analyst Rick Sutcliffe was all over Terry Francona for <i>not</i> running for Ortiz in this situation. Ã¢â‚¬Å“YouÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve got your closer in the game! YouÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve got to make something happen here!Ã¢â‚¬Â  The Angels got the last out and the game went into extra innings. </p>
<p>Ortiz came up to bat in the 10th inning and won the game on a HR on the first pitch he saw from our old friend Jarrod Washburn.</p>
<p>Contrast that with game 4 of last yearÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s NLDS between the Braves and the Astros. It went <i>18 innings</i> because the AstrosÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ manager, Phil Garner, took one of his best hitters, Lance Berkman, out of the lineup for a pinch runner with 2 out in the 10th.</p>
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		<title>By: doorbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>doorbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to add one quick thing to the &quot;pinch-running-Gibson-for-Edgar Great Debate&quot; about those 9 CS in a Mariner uniform. After eponymous coward brought how relatively rare they were, I decided to check the box scores. Turns out, the situation described by the original poster was vastly exaggerated; borderline hyperbole.

In fact, Gibson pinch-ran for Edgar and was caught stealing a grand total of one time in his brief tenure with the club. Once. And they won that game two batters later.

But I do agree, they (hitters of Richie&#039;s ilk) shouldn&#039;t be pinch-run for unless the potential need heavily outweighs the loss; subjectively of course, heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to add one quick thing to the &#8220;pinch-running-Gibson-for-Edgar Great Debate&#8221; about those 9 CS in a Mariner uniform. After eponymous coward brought how relatively rare they were, I decided to check the box scores. Turns out, the situation described by the original poster was vastly exaggerated; borderline hyperbole.</p>
<p>In fact, Gibson pinch-ran for Edgar and was caught stealing a grand total of one time in his brief tenure with the club. Once. And they won that game two batters later.</p>
<p>But I do agree, they (hitters of Richie&#8217;s ilk) shouldn&#8217;t be pinch-run for unless the potential need heavily outweighs the loss; subjectively of course, heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Sox Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Sox Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the one that I was thinking of, it was on April 12, 2004 against the A&#039;s. It wasn&#039;t a walk off, but it was extra innings and it won the game.
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.aspc=sportsnetwork&amp;page=mlb/news/aan3157119.htm

 I hope the link works *crosses fingers*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the one that I was thinking of, it was on April 12, 2004 against the A&#8217;s. It wasn&#8217;t a walk off, but it was extra innings and it won the game.<br />
<a href="http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.aspc=sportsnetwork&#038;page=mlb/news/aan3157119.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.aspc=sportsnetwork&#038;page=mlb/news/aan3157119.htm</a></p>
<p> I hope the link works *crosses fingers*</p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two nights later Bucky Jacobsen hit a walk-off in the 10th against the A&#039;s. Then, on August 28, Randy Winn hit one in the 12th against KC. 

Someone else can paw through last year&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two nights later Bucky Jacobsen hit a walk-off in the 10th against the A&#8217;s. Then, on August 28, Randy Winn hit one in the 12th against KC. </p>
<p>Someone else can paw through last year&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the notes on the game, Jeff.  Highly entertaining!

I called a friend at the game who has been going to M&#039;s games since 1991.  I swear, it didn&#039;t sound like he was at a game.  He made the comment that the low noise and low attendance made it have an early 90&#039;s vibe.  Perhaps Mariner management has unwittingly launched a new retro feel to the games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the notes on the game, Jeff.  Highly entertaining!</p>
<p>I called a friend at the game who has been going to M&#8217;s games since 1991.  I swear, it didn&#8217;t sound like he was at a game.  He made the comment that the low noise and low attendance made it have an early 90&#8242;s vibe.  Perhaps Mariner management has unwittingly launched a new retro feel to the games.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2004, not &quot;204&quot;, duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2004, not &#8220;204&#8243;, duh.</p>
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