Comments on: Attendance down, dog bites man http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:41:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: BelaXadux http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103676 BelaXadux Wed, 10 May 2006 09:05:05 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103676 Part of being a long-time fan is finding things to like in an organization when some of the things in the foreground are ugly. The Seattle club's offense is offensive. The empty seats are ugly. But I can still get interested in hopefuls coming up through the minors, the upcoming draft, and the skill refinement of young guys who've made the Big Club. I may tune out stretches of games now, but I'll still be looking in on guys like Betancourt, Lopez, Soriano, Sherrill, Felix, DOYLE!, but LaHair, Santiago, Kahn, Cabreara, Jones, and Clement, too. Find something to like; the FO's floundering can't suck all of the joy out of it. ---Unless you're in KC or Pittsburgh, but they need some mob action there. Part of being a long-time fan is finding things to like in an organization when some of the things in the foreground are ugly. The Seattle club’s offense is offensive. The empty seats are ugly. But I can still get interested in hopefuls coming up through the minors, the upcoming draft, and the skill refinement of young guys who’ve made the Big Club. I may tune out stretches of games now, but I’ll still be looking in on guys like Betancourt, Lopez, Soriano, Sherrill, Felix, DOYLE!, but LaHair, Santiago, Kahn, Cabreara, Jones, and Clement, too.

Find something to like; the FO’s floundering can’t suck all of the joy out of it. —Unless you’re in KC or Pittsburgh, but they need some mob action there.

]]> By: BelaXadux http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103675 BelaXadux Wed, 10 May 2006 09:01:04 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103675 Enjoy Lincecum while you can. He's pitching for his signing bonus, but a guy with his usage, hideous mechanics, and velocity is highly likely to explode in the near future. Let someone else draft him; we can pick him up after the T-J in a modest deal. I'm very interested in Santiago and Lowe pitching in the minors, although hearing that Julio is hurt is worrisome indeed. Is LaHair for real? I've been waiting for the Future Forty update to see a glimmer on the guy, but a LH hitting 1Bman with power who walks? In _this_ organization??? I can dream, but this one would be a sweet vision indeed. Enjoy Lincecum while you can. He’s pitching for his signing bonus, but a guy with his usage, hideous mechanics, and velocity is highly likely to explode in the near future. Let someone else draft him; we can pick him up after the T-J in a modest deal.

I’m very interested in Santiago and Lowe pitching in the minors, although hearing that Julio is hurt is worrisome indeed.

Is LaHair for real? I’ve been waiting for the Future Forty update to see a glimmer on the guy, but a LH hitting 1Bman with power who walks? In _this_ organization??? I can dream, but this one would be a sweet vision indeed.

]]> By: Smegmalicious http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103656 Smegmalicious Wed, 10 May 2006 05:48:58 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103656 KAern: I know this thread is dead, but I resent that. I'm a die hard M's fan who's been going to games since the early 80's. I love the team and hate to see them suck. Just because I bitch about the things they do that I don't like or the thing I don't understand that seem to actively be making the team worse doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan. I go to about 20 games a year and scream myself hoarse cheering for the only sports team I like. Complaining about the things I don't like doesn't make me less of a fan. KAern: I know this thread is dead, but I resent that. I’m a die hard M’s fan who’s been going to games since the early 80′s. I love the team and hate to see them suck. Just because I bitch about the things they do that I don’t like or the thing I don’t understand that seem to actively be making the team worse doesn’t mean I’m any less of a fan. I go to about 20 games a year and scream myself hoarse cheering for the only sports team I like.

Complaining about the things I don’t like doesn’t make me less of a fan.

]]> By: jefffrane http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103370 jefffrane Wed, 10 May 2006 01:34:21 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103370 And speaking of the Yankees -- they've gone to Ron Villone in a blow-out loss (3-11) to the Red Sox. One out, two men on . . . why does this feel so familiar? And speaking of the Yankees — they’ve gone to Ron Villone in a blow-out loss (3-11) to the Red Sox. One out, two men on . . . why does this feel so familiar?

]]> By: msb http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103360 msb Wed, 10 May 2006 00:30:54 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103360 you gotta love it-- some guy just called KJR to ask Tim Kurkjian (with voice quivering with barely repressed rage) how close was the Reed for Arroya deal, and should Bill Bavasi be fired just for not getting that deal done? Tim gently pointed out that his understanding was that the deal was no where as close as some had reported, and that it was the Sox who felt that Reed wouldn't provide enough offense in the outfield in trade for one of their pitchers.... oh, and someone else just proposed Nageotte & Reed to the Nationals for Jose Guillen. you gotta love it– some guy just called KJR to ask Tim Kurkjian (with voice quivering with barely repressed rage) how close was the Reed for Arroya deal, and should Bill Bavasi be fired just for not getting that deal done? Tim gently pointed out that his understanding was that the deal was no where as close as some had reported, and that it was the Sox who felt that Reed wouldn’t provide enough offense in the outfield in trade for one of their pitchers….

oh, and someone else just proposed Nageotte & Reed to the Nationals for Jose Guillen.

]]> By: JMHawkins http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103358 JMHawkins Tue, 09 May 2006 23:57:17 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103358 Ed, My dad has the same story - grew up in South Dakota in the 30's, so he figured he could pick any team, so he took Ruth and Gehrig, etc. But now, and I don't know if this makes him a bandwagon fan or not, in 2001, when I told him I had World Series tickets *if* the M's went to the series and that I'd take him, well, he was happy to root against the Yanks then. And just to confuse people, he'll sometimes go around wearing an M's jacket and a Yankees cap. But anyway, the whole bandwagon M's fan thing seems overdone. I have season tickets and I watch more games when they're winning and fewer games when they're losing. When they're winning, every game matters because they're fighting for a playoff spot (or, in 2001 when they had a playoff spot wrapped up by, oh, now, they were fighting to break a record). When they're so bad that thinking of the playoffs is a cruel joke, individual games don't matter so much - just check in every once in a while to see if Beltre's figured out how to hit again, or if Felix is doing anything exceptional. Ed,

My dad has the same story – grew up in South Dakota in the 30′s, so he figured he could pick any team, so he took Ruth and Gehrig, etc. But now, and I don’t know if this makes him a bandwagon fan or not, in 2001, when I told him I had World Series tickets *if* the M’s went to the series and that I’d take him, well, he was happy to root against the Yanks then. And just to confuse people, he’ll sometimes go around wearing an M’s jacket and a Yankees cap.

But anyway, the whole bandwagon M’s fan thing seems overdone. I have season tickets and I watch more games when they’re winning and fewer games when they’re losing. When they’re winning, every game matters because they’re fighting for a playoff spot (or, in 2001 when they had a playoff spot wrapped up by, oh, now, they were fighting to break a record). When they’re so bad that thinking of the playoffs is a cruel joke, individual games don’t matter so much – just check in every once in a while to see if Beltre’s figured out how to hit again, or if Felix is doing anything exceptional.

]]> By: joser http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103355 joser Tue, 09 May 2006 23:34:26 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103355 He's probably moved on to New York by now. Things have a way of finding their natural home. Cream rises and other... things, well, don't. He’s probably moved on to New York by now. Things have a way of finding their natural home. Cream rises and other… things, well, don’t.

]]> By: Karen http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103354 Karen Tue, 09 May 2006 23:17:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103354 RE: #63 about where Devil Rays fans come from... I remember about 6-7 years ago on the "official" M's message board a smegmalicious-like crank who rarely had anything good to say about the M's announced he was moving to Tampa, and he was happy to abandon the Mariners to adopt his new favorite team, the Devil Rays, and ha ha all you sucker M's fans...!!!! I think of him wallowing in his despair, and I just smile... RE: #63 about where Devil Rays fans come from…

I remember about 6-7 years ago on the “official” M’s message board a smegmalicious-like crank who rarely had anything good to say about the M’s announced he was moving to Tampa, and he was happy to abandon the Mariners to adopt his new favorite team, the Devil Rays, and ha ha all you sucker M’s fans…!!!!

I think of him wallowing in his despair, and I just smile…

]]> By: Ed http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103353 Ed Tue, 09 May 2006 23:07:25 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103353 My dad's a Yankees fan who grew up in Montana, but when the M's don't exist yet, the nearest franchise is like Milwaukee (or wait, didn't they get the Pilots? Probably KC or SF then), and you can root for Mickey Mantle, I can see how he came by his fandom. That understanding of why he likes them doesn't prevent me from gloating whenever they're behind in the East, though. And to his credit he converted me to Seahawks-love back in the Dave Krieg years, of all times. My dad’s a Yankees fan who grew up in Montana, but when the M’s don’t exist yet, the nearest franchise is like Milwaukee (or wait, didn’t they get the Pilots? Probably KC or SF then), and you can root for Mickey Mantle, I can see how he came by his fandom.

That understanding of why he likes them doesn’t prevent me from gloating whenever they’re behind in the East, though. And to his credit he converted me to Seahawks-love back in the Dave Krieg years, of all times.

]]> By: Evan http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/attendance-down/comment-page-2/#comment-103352 Evan Tue, 09 May 2006 23:00:03 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2006/05/09/brown-on-ms-attendance-woes/#comment-103352 He can raise his glove above his head. That's as good as it gets. He can raise his glove above his head. That’s as good as it gets.

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