Comments on: Tying up loose ends

By: Jed C

Jed C — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:05:14 +0000

Did anyone see the Josh Beckett signing? His ERA is 5+ this year, although his k/BB ratio is similar to Meche’s. He got a 3 year deal with a 4th year possible if he meets incentives. I know his ceiling is higher than Meche, but I’ll bet this is the type of deal Gil will look for.

Also, Castilla was dropped by San Diego. Any chance they would trade for Beltre? We’d probably have to pick up some $$, but for the right guys it could work.

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:27:47 +0000

IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll disagree with Dave a little about Soriano. IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT, he can be a great addition to a team. In no context would he fall farther short than here.

I’m not sure what context could defend the acquisition of a poor defensive left fielder who posts an .850 OPS and commands two top prospects and $12 million per year.

I’m not arguing Soriano’s not a valuable player. I’m arguing that the cost, both in talent to acquire and to pay his salary, far exceeds his value. It’s like paying $40,000 to drive around in a Ford Focus. A car might be valuable to you if you don’t have one, but you should still never spend $40,000 on a focus.

By: jeff angus

jeff angus — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:48:37 +0000

I’ll disagree with Dave a little about Soriano. IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT, he can be a great addition to a team. In no context would he fall farther short than here.

We need a power lefty or a hiter with tons of patience or both. A-Sorry has neither.

Moreover, he has no proven record at the Mariners’ field. While it’s CONCEPTUALLY obvious A-Sorry’s aptitudes don’t work well in The Clam, the hard record is worse: In his last 88 plate appearances here, he’s been 190/270/305 while his overall road mark has been 260/305/465. One could choose to dispute either, but disputing both at the same time is Russian Roulette With Five Bullets (might survive, but don’t bet on it and why even play?).

Why add ANY undisciplined RH slugger when you already have too much of that and play in a park that rewards LH pull hitters and you don’t really have a bunch of ‘em?

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:57:59 +0000

While I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think that Soriano is a great fit for OUR team, heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll be a nice player for SOME team. I remember a few years ago when Soriano was a minor league player and the SABR community called him an overrated bum and said DÃ¢â‚¬â„¢Angelo Jiminez would be a much better major league prospect.

The SABR community, for the most part, sucks at prospect analysis.

They’re pretty good at major league analysis, though, and Soriano has had more than enough years to show that he’s not a great player.

By: The Ancient Mariner

The Ancient Mariner — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 05:49:56 +0000

The problem wasn’t so much the paradigm — the problem, it appears, was that Jimenez had serious character/personality issues.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:45:10 +0000

While I don’t think that Soriano is a great fit for OUR team, he’ll be a nice player for SOME team. I remember a few years ago when Soriano was a minor league player and the SABR community called him an overrated bum and said D’Angelo Jiminez would be a much better major league prospect.

Soriano is a nice player even though he doesn’t fit the SABR paradigm.

By: John in L.A.

John in L.A. — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:31:05 +0000

Trading for Soriano is a HORRIBLE idea.

He’s a right-handed power hitter, they come here and fail.

He’s an NL power hitter, they come here and fail.

He’s a LF/DH, a postion we don’t need. And bad at LF, to boot, which we also don’t need in SafeCo.

He’s a rent-a-player.

We’d have to give up SERIOUS talent. Three players. We cannot afford that. At all. You want to lose Clement AND Jones?

One of the worst ideas I’ve heard connected with the Ms.

Just an awful, awful idea.

By: cougs129

cougs129 — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:53:52 +0000

trading for Soriano is a VERY good idea… It gets Everett off the team most likely because Ibanez DH’s and we add a top notch bat… Do it

By: bermanator

bermanator — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:13:13 +0000

#123 – You could probably get LeCroy for the cost of the waiver claim. But he doesn’t field a position at all. He was bad enough as a catcher that Frank Robinson had to yank him from a game mid-inning (I think he’d given up seven steals), and he’s no great shakes at first.

I mean, he’s an upgrade over Everett at DH, but everybody in the world fits that description.

By: Thingray

Thingray — Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:46:58 +0000

Nicely done coward! Nicely done.. Some players fit certain ballparks better than others.