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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146898</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the problem is that I think I&#039;m superhuman. Why didn&#039;t that occur to me before? The problem couldn&#039;t possibly have anything to do with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the problem is that I think I&#8217;m superhuman. Why didn&#8217;t that occur to me before? The problem couldn&#8217;t possibly have anything to do with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sriram</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146897</link>
		<dc:creator>Sriram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I dont want to fight - you think you are a superhuman, fine - this is your blog, so that makes you superhuman. Good luck in the future, but my advice would be reduce your profanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I dont want to fight &#8211; you think you are a superhuman, fine &#8211; this is your blog, so that makes you superhuman. Good luck in the future, but my advice would be reduce your profanity.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146533</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is such a load of bullshit. You said 

&lt;i&gt;Lots of posts and comments here talked about why Aurilia was a complete bust and he has declined and nothing else to offer at the major league level.&lt;/i&gt;

This is a false statement, and I pointed that out. If what you meant was  this new, &quot;stuff doesn&#039;t translate&quot; argument, you should have said that in the first place.

You can&#039;t say &quot;well, 1+1=a bajillion&quot; and then, when it&#039;s pointed out that it&#039;s not, argue that you made an entirely different statement.

Well, you can, but it&#039;s stupid.

You fucked up. You could at least have the decency to admit that, instead of accusing people of misunderstanding you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is such a load of bullshit. You said </p>
<p><i>Lots of posts and comments here talked about why Aurilia was a complete bust and he has declined and nothing else to offer at the major league level.</i></p>
<p>This is a false statement, and I pointed that out. If what you meant was  this new, &#8220;stuff doesn&#8217;t translate&#8221; argument, you should have said that in the first place.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t say &#8220;well, 1+1=a bajillion&#8221; and then, when it&#8217;s pointed out that it&#8217;s not, argue that you made an entirely different statement.</p>
<p>Well, you can, but it&#8217;s stupid.</p>
<p>You fucked up. You could at least have the decency to admit that, instead of accusing people of misunderstanding you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sriram</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146527</link>
		<dc:creator>Sriram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 20:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if youâ€™re not willing to do research, you shouldnâ€™t make assertions like that.&lt;/i&gt;

You misunderstood what I said. Your original posting said &quot;we floated a number of names as possible alternatives. Howâ€™d they do?&quot; - point is, how they do elsewhere doesn&#039;t exactly translate to how they do here at Safeco (even with all the zillion ballpark independant stats you can throw at me). Aurilia is an example. Somebody else mentioned Olivo. 

Regardless, I feel that some people just hate Everett (for baseball and non-baseball reasons) - every post should not reflect that thought IMHO, but this is your blog, so u r entitled to ur opinions for sure.

PS - Everett sucked big time, but he has a chance to be more valuble in a different org - probably Reds/Rangers/WhiteSox again in a hitter friendly ballpark and a loaded lineup for example. That he is not very valuble to the M&#039;s and Safeco does not mean he is useless (even though he might not be a good person in non-baseball angle)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if youâ€™re not willing to do research, you shouldnâ€™t make assertions like that.</i></p>
<p>You misunderstood what I said. Your original posting said &#8220;we floated a number of names as possible alternatives. Howâ€™d they do?&#8221; &#8211; point is, how they do elsewhere doesn&#8217;t exactly translate to how they do here at Safeco (even with all the zillion ballpark independant stats you can throw at me). Aurilia is an example. Somebody else mentioned Olivo. </p>
<p>Regardless, I feel that some people just hate Everett (for baseball and non-baseball reasons) &#8211; every post should not reflect that thought IMHO, but this is your blog, so u r entitled to ur opinions for sure.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Everett sucked big time, but he has a chance to be more valuble in a different org &#8211; probably Reds/Rangers/WhiteSox again in a hitter friendly ballpark and a loaded lineup for example. That he is not very valuble to the M&#8217;s and Safeco does not mean he is useless (even though he might not be a good person in non-baseball angle)</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146461</link>
		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37: my point was-if your motivated, you can check....  

My last post was referencing #20 and #23 which lead to the *safety net* comment in #31 which you refuted in #35 but aptly proved in #37...... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37: my point was-if your motivated, you can check&#8230;.  </p>
<p>My last post was referencing #20 and #23 which lead to the *safety net* comment in #31 which you refuted in #35 but aptly proved in #37&#8230;&#8230; <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Malph</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146416</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Malph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 04:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point of the e-mail you found by searching was that it was meaningless to DFA Aurilia in July of 2004 if they were going to replace him at SS with Bloomquist.  That was an obvious point at the time, and has nothing to do with the point of this thread which was who were the alternatives to Everett.  I never heard anyone suggest Aurilia as a DH option for 2006 (and they would have been laughed at for suggesting it).

Here&#039;s what JMB said about Aurilia on 1/1/04, by the way:

&lt;i&gt;Getting back to Aurilia, I donâ€™t have strong feelings about this one way or the other. Sure heâ€™s older and slightly more expensive than Guillen, but heâ€™s also a better bet to play 140 games in 2004. Itâ€™s also a very good thing that this is a one-year deal â€” perhaps they invision Jose Lopez taking over in 2005 â€” rather than the long-term deal Aurilia and his agent were supposedly looking for. Finally, thereâ€™s a chance the Mâ€™s wind up with a decent prospect for Guillen. Overall, Iâ€™d put this one down as a small net positive.
&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of the e-mail you found by searching was that it was meaningless to DFA Aurilia in July of 2004 if they were going to replace him at SS with Bloomquist.  That was an obvious point at the time, and has nothing to do with the point of this thread which was who were the alternatives to Everett.  I never heard anyone suggest Aurilia as a DH option for 2006 (and they would have been laughed at for suggesting it).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what JMB said about Aurilia on 1/1/04, by the way:</p>
<p><i>Getting back to Aurilia, I donâ€™t have strong feelings about this one way or the other. Sure heâ€™s older and slightly more expensive than Guillen, but heâ€™s also a better bet to play 140 games in 2004. Itâ€™s also a very good thing that this is a one-year deal â€” perhaps they invision Jose Lopez taking over in 2005 â€” rather than the long-term deal Aurilia and his agent were supposedly looking for. Finally, thereâ€™s a chance the Mâ€™s wind up with a decent prospect for Guillen. Overall, Iâ€™d put this one down as a small net positive.<br />
</i></p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146390</link>
		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35: yes, I agree, they&#039;ve made it impossible to find relevant posts in the archive. I mean I had to point toward the second hit in the search results(the second freakin&#039; hit-who expects people to dig that deep into a search for gosh sakes????) to find this:

In the intro of the thread he authored, DMZ includes text from an email referencing the USSM position on Aurilia&#039;s DFA: ***(2) Concerning the Aurilia DFA: I agree concerning the overall meaninglessness of the move*****

Seriously, I gave up after that because given the heroic effort I displayed during the search, no way was I going to click on the third link in the search results... 

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35: yes, I agree, they&#8217;ve made it impossible to find relevant posts in the archive. I mean I had to point toward the second hit in the search results(the second freakin&#8217; hit-who expects people to dig that deep into a search for gosh sakes????) to find this:</p>
<p>In the intro of the thread he authored, DMZ includes text from an email referencing the USSM position on Aurilia&#8217;s DFA: ***(2) Concerning the Aurilia DFA: I agree concerning the overall meaninglessness of the move*****</p>
<p>Seriously, I gave up after that because given the heroic effort I displayed during the search, no way was I going to click on the third link in the search results&#8230; </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ralph_Malph</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146281</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph_Malph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No safety net?  They give you a search line to look for stupid things they&#039;ve said in the past.  Why don&#039;t you look up a few and enlighten us please.  

With 8 walks and 100 strikeouts this year and being right handed, I don&#039;t think Olivo&#039;s numbers translate real well to Safeco.  Give Olivo credit for a nice year, but don&#039;t forget his 151/172/276 line here last year in 152 at bats.

Obviously he&#039;d have been a better backup C than Rivera, but backup C is the least of the Mariners&#039; problems.  I don&#039;t like the idea of using your backup C as a DH, because you lose the DH if you have to put him in the game.  Which really reduces your flexibility late in games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No safety net?  They give you a search line to look for stupid things they&#8217;ve said in the past.  Why don&#8217;t you look up a few and enlighten us please.  </p>
<p>With 8 walks and 100 strikeouts this year and being right handed, I don&#8217;t think Olivo&#8217;s numbers translate real well to Safeco.  Give Olivo credit for a nice year, but don&#8217;t forget his 151/172/276 line here last year in 152 at bats.</p>
<p>Obviously he&#8217;d have been a better backup C than Rivera, but backup C is the least of the Mariners&#8217; problems.  I don&#8217;t like the idea of using your backup C as a DH, because you lose the DH if you have to put him in the game.  Which really reduces your flexibility late in games.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146279</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But really, none of the alternative options brought up so far represent a â€œsmoking gun*. The Everett decision was just a bad one because the chances of it working out were so poor. &lt;/i&gt;

The smoking gun isn&#039;t in the alternatives, nor has anyone really argued that it is. It&#039;s in how they settled on Everett, their reasons for paying him a ridiculous amount of money with a potentially dangerous option. The whole process defied logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But really, none of the alternative options brought up so far represent a â€œsmoking gun*. The Everett decision was just a bad one because the chances of it working out were so poor. </i></p>
<p>The smoking gun isn&#8217;t in the alternatives, nor has anyone really argued that it is. It&#8217;s in how they settled on Everett, their reasons for paying him a ridiculous amount of money with a potentially dangerous option. The whole process defied logic.</p>
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		<title>By: JI</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/23/your-guide-to-everett-alternatives-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-146275</link>
		<dc:creator>JI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>16

Who was the last Everett-like player that Larussa ran out for the duration?

18

Hasn&#039;t White hit much better since returning from injury? At least the Twins cut Batista loose.</description>
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<p>Who was the last Everett-like player that Larussa ran out for the duration?</p>
<p>18</p>
<p>Hasn&#8217;t White hit much better since returning from injury? At least the Twins cut Batista loose.</p>
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