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		<title>By: Mike Snow</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/28/notes-from-the-dailies/comment-page-2/#comment-147663</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between Turnbow in 2005 and Turnbow before and after is comparable to the difference between Putz now versus before this season. Other than in 2005 and early this year, Turnbow has been a pitcher who doesn&#039;t belong in the major leagues at all. Putz belonged in the majors before now, so he&#039;s got a higher baseline, but the spike is similar.

It is or isn&#039;t a fluke much like Beltre in 2004 is or isn&#039;t a fluke. The ability was there to begin with, and presumably still is, but that particular performance might not ever be repeated. That&#039;s why I want to see Putz show he &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; repeat it before I start assuming that he &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; repeat it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between Turnbow in 2005 and Turnbow before and after is comparable to the difference between Putz now versus before this season. Other than in 2005 and early this year, Turnbow has been a pitcher who doesn&#8217;t belong in the major leagues at all. Putz belonged in the majors before now, so he&#8217;s got a higher baseline, but the spike is similar.</p>
<p>It is or isn&#8217;t a fluke much like Beltre in 2004 is or isn&#8217;t a fluke. The ability was there to begin with, and presumably still is, but that particular performance might not ever be repeated. That&#8217;s why I want to see Putz show he <i>can</i> repeat it before I start assuming that he <i>will</i> repeat it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/28/notes-from-the-dailies/comment-page-2/#comment-147648</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Derrick Turnbow. At least, Iâ€™m not aware that any injury has been offered as an explanation, though perhaps thatâ€™s yet to be discovered.&lt;/em&gt;

Turnbow was good last year, but he was Soriano-good, not Putz-good.  3.4 BB/G, 9.1 K/G, 50% GB rate.  The super low ERA was a function of his LOB% (88.1%) and his BABIP (.249).  For the year, his FIP was 3.07.  

Putz this year has been, well, way better.  1.6 BB/G, 12.9 K/G, and the same 50% GB rate.  His FIP is 1.78.  

Turnbow wasn&#039;t a relief ace last year, despite the shiny ERA.  He was a guy who missed bats, had iffy command, and left a lot of guys on base.  Putz has been completely unhittable.  

12 walks and 99 strikeouts? That&#039;s just not a fluke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Derrick Turnbow. At least, Iâ€™m not aware that any injury has been offered as an explanation, though perhaps thatâ€™s yet to be discovered.</em></p>
<p>Turnbow was good last year, but he was Soriano-good, not Putz-good.  3.4 BB/G, 9.1 K/G, 50% GB rate.  The super low ERA was a function of his LOB% (88.1%) and his BABIP (.249).  For the year, his FIP was 3.07.  </p>
<p>Putz this year has been, well, way better.  1.6 BB/G, 12.9 K/G, and the same 50% GB rate.  His FIP is 1.78.  </p>
<p>Turnbow wasn&#8217;t a relief ace last year, despite the shiny ERA.  He was a guy who missed bats, had iffy command, and left a lot of guys on base.  Putz has been completely unhittable.  </p>
<p>12 walks and 99 strikeouts? That&#8217;s just not a fluke.</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/28/notes-from-the-dailies/comment-page-2/#comment-147566</link>
		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Chuck and Howard have decided that they&#039;re under contract to pay for Hargrove next year and don&#039;t want to pay him to sit on his couch and watch TV, that&#039;s not a fight Bavasi can win.

And from the looks of that email, Chuck and Howard have made that decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Chuck and Howard have decided that they&#8217;re under contract to pay for Hargrove next year and don&#8217;t want to pay him to sit on his couch and watch TV, that&#8217;s not a fight Bavasi can win.</p>
<p>And from the looks of that email, Chuck and Howard have made that decision.</p>
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		<title>By: pinball1973</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinball1973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve come to have a modicum of respect for Bavasi, whom I was entirely against at first, but this evaluation of Hargorove proclivites and skills is horseshit worthy of certain Adminisstration officials, and I really find it unforgiveable, even if Har-Har leaves this time, last week.

  What an absolute crock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come to have a modicum of respect for Bavasi, whom I was entirely against at first, but this evaluation of Hargorove proclivites and skills is horseshit worthy of certain Adminisstration officials, and I really find it unforgiveable, even if Har-Har leaves this time, last week.</p>
<p>  What an absolute crock!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay R.</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/28/notes-from-the-dailies/comment-page-2/#comment-147504</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be the last straw for me. If he comes back, I won&#039;t be watching next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be the last straw for me. If he comes back, I won&#8217;t be watching next season.</p>
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		<title>By: Death On A Pale Horse</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/28/notes-from-the-dailies/comment-page-2/#comment-147502</link>
		<dc:creator>Death On A Pale Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks official - the Mariners will &lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060928&amp;content_id=1687794&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;keep&lt;/a&gt; the bastard. Say it ain&#039;t so, someone. Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks official &#8211; the Mariners will <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060928&amp;content_id=1687794&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb" rel="nofollow">keep</a> the bastard. Say it ain&#8217;t so, someone. Please.</p>
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		<title>By: leetinsleyfanclub</title>
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		<dc:creator>leetinsleyfanclub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Fairly quit because he heard Grover was coming back.  Man, would I love to run into Dan Rohn right about now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Fairly quit because he heard Grover was coming back.  Man, would I love to run into Dan Rohn right about now.</p>
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		<title>By: Go Manures!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Go Manures!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me try a Steve Kelley column-ending type post a shot:
 
Another year of Mateo as a lead protecting type reliever.  
-Shudder-
Another year of Snelling being replaced by Bohn and his ilk late in games(which is nuts, did you see Snelling&#039;s throw to home last night?  Perfect toss) 
-Shudder-
Another year of WFB as the given way to muh credit for what little he does. (Did you hear, Rick? Willie had 5 hits in one game last year!)
-Shudder-

Of course, the problem with this is that Kelley will come out with a pro Grover column soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me try a Steve Kelley column-ending type post a shot:</p>
<p>Another year of Mateo as a lead protecting type reliever.<br />
-Shudder-<br />
Another year of Snelling being replaced by Bohn and his ilk late in games(which is nuts, did you see Snelling&#8217;s throw to home last night?  Perfect toss)<br />
-Shudder-<br />
Another year of WFB as the given way to muh credit for what little he does. (Did you hear, Rick? Willie had 5 hits in one game last year!)<br />
-Shudder-</p>
<p>Of course, the problem with this is that Kelley will come out with a pro Grover column soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Go Manures!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Go Manures!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-Shudder-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-Shudder-</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Malph</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2006/09/28/notes-from-the-dailies/comment-page-2/#comment-147497</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Malph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Mike Hargrove is uniquely qualified to lead a young team, then I&#039;m uniquely qualified to perform neurosurgery on wombats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mike Hargrove is uniquely qualified to lead a young team, then I&#8217;m uniquely qualified to perform neurosurgery on wombats.</p>
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