Comments on: Day-after coverage survey

By: seagood3

seagood3 — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:57:00 +0000

BTW, I am drunk, but if I were GM I wouldnâ€™t have signed Guillen or traded for Vidro. I sign Huff to DH and deal Broussard, even if for prospects. I like the lineup of:
CF Ichiro
3B Beltre
LF Ibanez
1B Sexson
DH Huff
2B Lopez
C Jojima
RF Snelling/Reed/Jones
SS Betancourt

That doesnâ€™t mortgage the future (Huff is only 29), and lets one of the three young guys in the outfield get a chance to develop without too much pressure. Huff was the only offensive signing needed, put the rest into pitching. We gotta fix that farm system and stay committed to developing our own kids. But what the hell does a drunk knowâ€¦

I couldn’t agree more.

By: terry

terry — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:38:20 +0000

I finally get it….

Combine this:

Batista, perhaps invigorated by the signing of a three-year contract believed to be worth $25 million, also used the term â€œdynastyâ€ to describe the outlook for his new club.

With this:

Bavasi acknowledged that the exploding free-agent salaries this winter changed the Marinersâ€™ initial expectations that they could obtain two starting pitchers and two position players via free agencyâ€¦

And its very clear…. there are some drugs that apparently still can’t be detected by mlb’s program…

Huffing aerosol cans maybe?

By: squidbilly

squidbilly — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:25:15 +0000

A few snipets from the Seattle Times (SOURCE):

Batista, perhaps invigorated by the signing of a three-year contract believed to be worth $25 million, also used the term "dynasty" to describe the outlook for his new club.

Also, from the same article:

Bavasi acknowledged that the exploding free-agent salaries this winter changed the Mariners' initial expectations that they could obtain two starting pitchers and two position players via free agency... ...But speaking in general terms, he indicated that the M's believe it is prudent to acquire proven veteran players, even if it is at the expense of young players with potential. "We're trying to build a club that is ready to win a lot more games than the last couple of years," he said. "To do that, I don't think we can completely bet on kids."

To the guys running USS Mariner, feel free to delete this post and start a new thread with these quotes, or any others for that matter, from the somewhat revealing article cited above.

By: sevenfly

sevenfly — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:37:49 +0000

BTW, I am drunk, but if I were GM I wouldn’t have signed Guillen or traded for Vidro. I sign Huff to DH and deal Broussard, even if for prospects. I like the lineup of:
CF Ichiro
3B Beltre
LF Ibanez
1B Sexson
DH Huff
2B Lopez
C Jojima
RF Snelling/Reed/Jones
SS Betancourt

That doesn’t mortgage the future (Huff is only 29), and lets one of the three young guys in the outfield get a chance to develop without too much pressure. Huff was the only offensive signing needed, put the rest into pitching. We gotta fix that farm system and stay committed to developing our own kids. But what the hell does a drunk know…

By: colm

colm — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:37:04 +0000

But we’d still be better off with Doyle hitting second, Fruto in Tacoma, and $12M in the kitty.

By: sevenfly

sevenfly — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:22:02 +0000

Cheetah, I think you are on the right track with your criticm, but I think you are wrong about the players you mentioned. Erstad is really the only comparable player you mentioned (as a lefty, comparable OBP, a good 2 spot candidate) but doesn’t seem to be much of an upgrade. The lineup is desperate for a lefty, but the pickings are pretty slim. Burnitz is done, Finley is 41, and Floyd is too fragile/expensive. Two free agents that should have made your list is Huff and Nixon. Both a fit at DH, for a comparable salary to Vidro? Of course I don’t know if any of these players were interested in coming to Seattle, so we may never know if it was even possible.

However, I think we are jumping the gun on the Vidro contract. It still sounds to me like 2/12 mill with an option. If the buyout is reasonable, we could be looking at a 2/12.5 mill deal. This isn’t too terrible.

As for the production to expect, a .780 OPS is getting ripped as everett redux? keep in mind that everett blasted a mighty .658, broussard .709, and those are with pretty decent sample sizes. When Vidro batted in the 2 spot last year, he hit .347 with .410 OBP and .856 OPS in 193 AB’s. That was last year, not 4 years ago. I am not saying that he will do that for the M’s, but he seems like a pretty good fit at the 2 spot.

Of course the problem is that he really didn’t balance out the lineup, if all he did was replace Broussard. If Vidro does bat second, and Broussard is out of the lineup, the only 3 lefty’s would be batting in the top 4 spots. That is why I am speculating a deal involving Sexson. If Sexson lands some quality pitching, the deal makes SOME sense.

By: 96twist

96twist — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:11:33 +0000

So does Bavasi have a golden parachute clause built into his contract? (A golden parachute is a clause (or several) in an executive’s employment contract specifying that they will receive certain large benefits if their employment is terminated. -From wikipedia) It seems like he is trying real hard to lose his job.

By: thehiddentrack

thehiddentrack — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 06:36:09 +0000

This is just sad. I hope some bald headed guy who has something to do with Mariners chokes on something. I mean not really it’s just a ame, but actually really really.

By: marbledog

marbledog — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:09:22 +0000

I’ve missed the news for the last two days and just now read about this. I will still wear my Doyle jersey proudly. Now I must close the laptop before I void the warranty with tears on the keyboard. Depressed, I am.

By: Josh

Josh — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:05:20 +0000

Piazza just got 8.5 million to DH for Oakland, and I donâ€™t think that Piazza is much better

A. An aging Piazza is still much better than Vidro.

B. Vidro costs more over 2-3 years.

C. Just because they got burned doesn’t mean we need to do the same.