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	<title>Comments on: Guillen&#8217;s heavy, but not heavy bad, Ichiro fallout, catchers bruised</title>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see.... :~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see&#8230;. :~</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Malph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Malph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...besides it was Clement&#039;s glove hand.  He might be able to put the throwing hand behind his back but he&#039;d have a lot of passed balls if he kept his glove hand behind his back.

My guess (not having seen it) is that it was probably a pitch a foot inside that Clement and Morse both reached for.  Which probably says more about Morse&#039;s hitting than about Clement&#039;s catching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;besides it was Clement&#8217;s glove hand.  He might be able to put the throwing hand behind his back but he&#8217;d have a lot of passed balls if he kept his glove hand behind his back.</p>
<p>My guess (not having seen it) is that it was probably a pitch a foot inside that Clement and Morse both reached for.  Which probably says more about Morse&#8217;s hitting than about Clement&#8217;s catching.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it wasn&#039;t hit by a ball, he got clobbered by Morse:

&quot;Jeff Clement, who was hit by the backswing of utility player Mike Morse. Morse hit Clement&#039;s glove, stinging the left middle finger. Clement left the workout and later had a precautionary X-ray that was negative.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it wasn&#8217;t hit by a ball, he got clobbered by Morse:</p>
<p>&#8220;Jeff Clement, who was hit by the backswing of utility player Mike Morse. Morse hit Clement&#8217;s glove, stinging the left middle finger. Clement left the workout and later had a precautionary X-ray that was negative.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About those two beat-up catchers of ours:  You can&#039;t do much of anything about a foul tip that bounces off the mask and caroms off the throat or neck (ouch!!!), but that injury Jeff Clement suffered was probably unnecessary and speaks to how much of a rookie catcher he must still be.

Whoever the catching instructor is should have already told him to put his frickin&#039; throwing hand behind his back until he&#039;s ready to handle the ball...i.e., while he&#039;s CATCHING, don&#039;t leave it dangling alongside the leg or foot, it&#039;ll get hurt that way.  Obviously I didn&#039;t see it happen, but I&#039;ll bet that&#039;s how.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About those two beat-up catchers of ours:  You can&#8217;t do much of anything about a foul tip that bounces off the mask and caroms off the throat or neck (ouch!!!), but that injury Jeff Clement suffered was probably unnecessary and speaks to how much of a rookie catcher he must still be.</p>
<p>Whoever the catching instructor is should have already told him to put his frickin&#8217; throwing hand behind his back until he&#8217;s ready to handle the ball&#8230;i.e., while he&#8217;s CATCHING, don&#8217;t leave it dangling alongside the leg or foot, it&#8217;ll get hurt that way.  Obviously I didn&#8217;t see it happen, but I&#8217;ll bet that&#8217;s how.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, &lt;em&gt;Ichiro&lt;/em&gt; might like to know what Lebron would make of his thoughts...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, <em>Ichiro</em> might like to know what Lebron would make of his thoughts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Elmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slippery Elmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading #11 I was all, &quot;Wow--I&#039;m not the only one who&#039;d like to know how a decade-younger, urban, pro basketball superstar interprets Ichiro&#039;s comments!?&quot;  Then I realized it said &quot;Lefton,&quot; not &quot;Lebron.&quot;  So I guess I &lt;em&gt;am&lt;/em&gt; the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading #11 I was all, &#8220;Wow&#8211;I&#8217;m not the only one who&#8217;d like to know how a decade-younger, urban, pro basketball superstar interprets Ichiro&#8217;s comments!?&#8221;  Then I realized it said &#8220;Lefton,&#8221; not &#8220;Lebron.&#8221;  So I guess I <em>am</em> the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: 88fingerslukee</title>
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		<dc:creator>88fingerslukee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only WFB could close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only WFB could close.</p>
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		<title>By: PositivePaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>PositivePaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...I remember a few years ago and I think it was PositivePaul doing every post on the PI thing in Haiku...&lt;/i&gt;

Wow -- you have a great memory.  That was my Senryu protest, inspired by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/archives/003060.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;very musings&lt;/a&gt; of Peter and Jeff (when they ran Baseball Musings long before being assimilated into USSM), so you can pretty much blame them. I suppose it was so obnoxious that it was memorable.  I was basically posting every comment in Senryu until the M&#039;s won three games in a row.  That was a loooong stretch of posting in Senryu, IIRC...

Man, it&#039;s totally funny reading about Guardado&#039;s ire towards Hargrove:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Mariners manager said it was temporary, that Guardado would get his job back once he worked things out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh, Eddie.  Gotta tell you something.  While I&#039;m not exactly a Hagrove fan, I don&#039;t think he&#039;s lying.  You still haven&#039;t worked things out.  I&#039;d actually suspect that if you ever did -- even partially -- Hargrove would precisely love to have you back as the closer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;I remember a few years ago and I think it was PositivePaul doing every post on the PI thing in Haiku&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Wow &#8212; you have a great memory.  That was my Senryu protest, inspired by the <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/archives/003060.html" rel="nofollow">very musings</a> of Peter and Jeff (when they ran Baseball Musings long before being assimilated into USSM), so you can pretty much blame them. I suppose it was so obnoxious that it was memorable.  I was basically posting every comment in Senryu until the M&#8217;s won three games in a row.  That was a loooong stretch of posting in Senryu, IIRC&#8230;</p>
<p>Man, it&#8217;s totally funny reading about Guardado&#8217;s ire towards Hargrove:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Mariners manager said it was temporary, that Guardado would get his job back once he worked things out.</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh, Eddie.  Gotta tell you something.  While I&#8217;m not exactly a Hagrove fan, I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s lying.  You still haven&#8217;t worked things out.  I&#8217;d actually suspect that if you ever did &#8212; even partially &#8212; Hargrove would precisely love to have you back as the closer.</p>
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		<title>By: David J. Corcoran I</title>
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		<dc:creator>David J. Corcoran I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes me happy to see Guardado pissed at Hargrove, whether he is right or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes me happy to see Guardado pissed at Hargrove, whether he is right or not.</p>
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		<title>By: CouchGM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CouchGM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thatâ€™s a pretty good haiku. I note that it has exactly 17 syllables in 5-7-5 arrangement. &quot;February 26th./ Mrs. Bloomquist. /Port Orchard Independent.&quot; 

I count 7-4-7 = 18 syllables....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thatâ€™s a pretty good haiku. I note that it has exactly 17 syllables in 5-7-5 arrangement. &#8220;February 26th./ Mrs. Bloomquist. /Port Orchard Independent.&#8221; </p>
<p>I count 7-4-7 = 18 syllables&#8230;.</p>
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