Comments on: Quick aside before the Vidro commnity projection http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:19:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: CSG http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165187 CSG Sat, 24 Feb 2007 06:23:12 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165187 Snelling gets killed by the projection systems due to his stint at Tacoma last year, which was pretty ugly. I bet he out hits his projections. Snelling gets killed by the projection systems due to his stint at Tacoma last year, which was pretty ugly. I bet he out hits his projections.

]]> By: DMZ http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165156 DMZ Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:46:30 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165156 It depends. Read that link, first, for how those four work. PECOTA does attempt to take injury history into account and adjust for position switches. It depends. Read that link, first, for how those four work.

PECOTA does attempt to take injury history into account and adjust for position switches.

]]> By: mmccall http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165153 mmccall Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:25:22 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165153 For me, the most difficult projection for Vidro is the number of at bats. Given the switch to DH, it should be more likely he can stay healthy but there is just no way to know. Does anyone know how or if the projection systems account for past injuries and position switches? For me, the most difficult projection for Vidro is the number of at bats. Given the switch to DH, it should be more likely he can stay healthy but there is just no way to know. Does anyone know how or if the projection systems account for past injuries and position switches?

]]> By: DMZ http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165135 DMZ Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:56:30 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165135 Essentially, yeah. They're weighted averages with some aging curves applied. Actually... David Appelman's got a good article on SI on <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/02/19/fangraphs.projections/index.html" rel="nofollow">how they're calculated</a>. Essentially, yeah. They’re weighted averages with some aging curves applied. Actually… David Appelman’s got a good article on SI on how they’re calculated.

]]> By: Evan http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165133 Evan Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:43:00 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165133 What these projections show is how inadequate most some of those projection systems are. Are they just working with recent data and applying an aging curve? What these projections show is how inadequate most some of those projection systems are. Are they just working with recent data and applying an aging curve?

]]> By: DMZ http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165132 DMZ Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:42:01 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165132 If you really can't see Snelling's potential, that's too bad, but that doesn't make him without potential. If you really can’t see Snelling’s potential, that’s too bad, but that doesn’t make him without potential.

]]> By: F-Rod http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165130 F-Rod Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:26:58 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165130 These projections show why losing Snelling is not a big deal. Or let alone a deal. He is a completely average, yet frail person. The only thing he does extrodinary is get injured. These projections show why losing Snelling is not a big deal. Or let alone a deal. He is a completely average, yet frail person. The only thing he does extrodinary is get injured.

]]> By: Adam S http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165118 Adam S Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:53:20 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165118 Corco said: <i>that’s actually not that good</i> DMZ said : <i>knowing how the systems work, it’s not at all surprising that they’re that low.</i> So far the community projection on Vidro is 273/338/388 (726 OPS), right in line with the <i>lowest</i> of the Snelling projections. Corco said: that’s actually not that good
DMZ said : knowing how the systems work, it’s not at all surprising that they’re that low.

So far the community projection on Vidro is 273/338/388 (726 OPS), right in line with the lowest of the Snelling projections.

]]> By: Manzanillos Cup http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165117 Manzanillos Cup Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:48:05 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165117 <em>“What Willie has become is the best utility player in baseball,” Mariners president Chuck Armstrong said.</em> This man 'Chuck Armstrong' seems to be quite confused. It's a good thing he isn't carried by the Mariners in any important capacity. “What Willie has become is the best utility player in baseball,” Mariners president Chuck Armstrong said.

This man ‘Chuck Armstrong’ seems to be quite confused. It’s a good thing he isn’t carried by the Mariners in any important capacity.

]]> By: terry http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/comment-page-1/#comment-165116 terry Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:43:33 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/02/22/quick-aside-before-the-vidro-commnity-projection/#comment-165116 Snelling: young, cheap, killer arm, injury risk; heart of a warrior; adored by the stathead diehards but not appreciated by casual observers; BP:.270/.358/.453 Guillen: old, expensive, killer arm (we hope after his surgery), injury risk; clubhouse cancer; stathead diehards could take him or leave him (he is better than a cardboard cutout or WFB) but casual fans see him as a huge upgrade and proof the FO is committed to winning; BP: .260/.310/.431 I'm so glad to be an Ms fan. It kind of looks like pandering to me is a top priority of the FO... Maybe I should be more casual about my fandom and I could appreciate the sentiment in my bliss... Snelling: young, cheap, killer arm, injury risk; heart of a warrior; adored by the stathead diehards but not appreciated by casual observers; BP:.270/.358/.453

Guillen: old, expensive, killer arm (we hope after his surgery), injury risk; clubhouse cancer; stathead diehards could take him or leave him (he is better than a cardboard cutout or WFB) but casual fans see him as a huge upgrade and proof the FO is committed to winning; BP: .260/.310/.431

I’m so glad to be an Ms fan. It kind of looks like pandering to me is a top priority of the FO… Maybe I should be more casual about my fandom and I could appreciate the sentiment in my bliss…

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