Comments on: What Doyle Stands For

By: Karen

Karen — Sat, 05 May 2007 01:32:34 +0000

Referencing that last paragraph in #223 above, I don't suppose it's a very good sign if the guy who wrote Baseball Prospectus' "Hit List" refers to Doyle as "Crash Snelling", is it? (scroll down to #17 on the list)

By: bermanator

bermanator — Fri, 04 May 2007 16:24:22 +0000

From Washington’s perspective (courtesy Barry Svrluga’s Nationals Blog at The Washington Post

Secondly, there seems to be much discussion about the Chris Snelling-for-Ryan Langerhans trade from last night. I talked to Susan Slusser, who covers the A’s for the San Francisco Chronicle, today, and she said that Oakland GM Billy Beane said something that made quite a bit of sense: The A’s had long coveted Snelling, but could never land him from the Mariners because they’re in the same division; the Nationals had long coveted Langerhans, but could never land him from the Braves because they’re in the same division.

So that makes some sense. Langerhans, however, is a mess right now. He made an error for the A’s last night, which is something he can’t afford to do. And there’s that whole 3 hits in 48 at-bats thing. Woah.

Also: The Nationals called Oakland almost as soon as the Braves traded Langerhans there. The A’s have a bunch of banged-up outfielders — Swisher, Bradley, Buck, etc. — so they needed bodies.

By: Bender

Bender — Fri, 04 May 2007 12:22:25 +0000

This has been an amazing thread. I’d just like to say thanks to all those involved for making my night a lot less boring.

Who knew it would be so fun to watch people try to drive a square peg (reason) into a round hole (AuburnM’s head).

By: zackr

zackr — Fri, 04 May 2007 07:20:46 +0000

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/04/AS.TMP

They just picked up Cust, and seem to like him at DH.

By: Jeff Nye

Jeff Nye — Fri, 04 May 2007 03:39:29 +0000

Ack, I did that wrong! I never get those darn tags right.

My point still remains!

By: Jeff Nye

Jeff Nye — Fri, 04 May 2007 03:38:47 +0000

Im still not understanding why getting a decent/average player for a player that has been apparently been deemed not good enough to be on the worst team in the MLB and even here has now been downgraded to a guy who could hit in spurts and someone who would not make the difference between the As and the Ms over the next three years.

You’re assuming, by saying this, that all MLB teams are equally adept at talent evaluation.

You’d be wrong.

By: NBarnes

NBarnes — Fri, 04 May 2007 03:35:33 +0000

I really get the feeling that AuburnM is one of those people for whom batting average is the first and greatest thing they look for in a hitter, and the Edgar vs. Bucky comparison came out ’cause he thinks of Edgar as ‘that guy with the 330 BA’ and Bucky as ‘that big slugger with a 275 BA’. The fact that Edgar was a monster OBP machine with good power just gets overlooked, where Bucky’s power is noticed ’cause he’s got no BA to notice.

Also, AuburnM, when you say stupid things, people respond as if you said something stupid. I suggest that statements of the form, ‘So where is it written that a DH has to hit for power?’ aren’t helping your cause.

By: gwangung

gwangung — Fri, 04 May 2007 03:24:24 +0000

The arrogance factor is really very high here.

Not really.

It’s really not hard to knock down really stupid arguments. Comparing Edgar Martinez to Bucky Jacobsen was really stupid. Takes no arrogance to show that it was stupid.

By: NBarnes

NBarnes — Fri, 04 May 2007 03:06:03 +0000

I just want to mention that Vidro’s salary + Sexson’s salary ~= Snelling’s salary + Manny Ramirez’s salary.

And that’s why we like Snelling. More Snellings on a team, providing effective play for league minimum or near it is more truly elite talents signed as free agents.

By: Dave Clapper

Dave Clapper — Fri, 04 May 2007 02:39:05 +0000

212: No, but it is smart to use the tools we have at hand to understand that we can project Snelling’s numbers in both the minors and majors out to what his likely performance will be, and that we can do the same for Vidro, and find that, factoring in age and historical evidence, they’re likely to have similar production this year (for a considerable chunk of salary difference) with Snelling out-performing Vidro going beyond this year.