Comments on: Julio Mateo under questioning for assault http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:19:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: eponymous coward http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-182161 eponymous coward Tue, 08 May 2007 19:50:10 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-182161 Yes, but ignoring the "all but confirming he did it" part is like ignoring Vidro's OPS because he's hitting .312. It's a de facto admission- and surely relevant. I'm sort of confused as to why waiting a day or two to come to a conclusion about what happened is the same as "com(ing) to the defense of such an obvious wifebeater in your entire life", but hey... Yes, but ignoring the “all but confirming he did it” part is like ignoring Vidro’s OPS because he’s hitting .312. It’s a de facto admission- and surely relevant.

I’m sort of confused as to why waiting a day or two to come to a conclusion about what happened is the same as “com(ing) to the defense of such an obvious wifebeater in your entire life”, but hey…

]]> By: mln http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-182113 mln Tue, 08 May 2007 14:47:27 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-182113 TIF: Personal flames began with your "troll" rhetoric. But ending this is fine by me. TIF: Personal flames began with your “troll” rhetoric. But ending this is fine by me.

]]> By: Typical Idiot Fan http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-182112 Typical Idiot Fan Tue, 08 May 2007 13:31:05 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-182112 <blockquote>Typical Idiot Fan: Your nickname seems to describes you well. Are you a cop, DA, judge, or something? Your overreaction to my comment is just a *bit* defensive.</blockquote> Yep, here come the personal flames. Can we end this now?

Typical Idiot Fan: Your nickname seems to describes you well. Are you a cop, DA, judge, or something? Your overreaction to my comment is just a *bit* defensive.

Yep, here come the personal flames. Can we end this now?

]]> By: mln http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-182110 mln Tue, 08 May 2007 10:39:10 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-182110 Typical Idiot Fan: Your nickname seems to describes you well. Are you a cop, DA, judge, or something? Your overreaction to my comment is just a *bit* defensive. All I said was that Mateo may in fact be guilty, but the American criminal injustice system in general ain't so just to minorities in the USA. How is that "inane"? Ever heard of "Driving While Black"? Abner Louima? Amadou Diallo? Sean Bell? Typical Idiot Fan: Your nickname seems to describes you well. Are you a cop, DA, judge, or something? Your overreaction to my comment is just a *bit* defensive.

All I said was that Mateo may in fact be guilty, but the American criminal injustice system in general ain’t so just to minorities in the USA. How is that “inane”? Ever heard of “Driving While Black”? Abner Louima? Amadou Diallo? Sean Bell?

]]> By: Gomez http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-182106 Gomez Tue, 08 May 2007 08:41:48 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-182106 His statement, save for all but confirming he did it, isn't relevant to the information we already had. Statements are contrived and very measured, thus should be taken with a grain of salt. His statement, save for all but confirming he did it, isn’t relevant to the information we already had. Statements are contrived and very measured, thus should be taken with a grain of salt.

]]> By: Lauren, token chick http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-182078 Lauren, token chick Tue, 08 May 2007 05:19:26 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-182078 Gomez: whaaaaa? Are you now saying that before the Mateo statement you agree he shouldn't have been prejudged? Gomez: whaaaaa?

Are you now saying that before the Mateo statement you agree he shouldn’t have been prejudged?

]]> By: eponymous coward http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-182077 eponymous coward Tue, 08 May 2007 05:16:04 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-182077 OK, I think I'd go with what Baker said. <em>I understand Mateo doesn't want to plead guilty to anything in public right now and ruin his chance to get a more lenient court result later on than the maximum one year in prison he now faces. He is simply covering his butt as his lawyer has instructed. The Mariners are going along with that plan and that's their perogative. But we don't have to. If we're going to be asked by a ballplayer to print an apology, then we shouldn't have to pretend he is apologizing for stuff he may or may not have done. That's just ridiculous. So, there it is. No "alleged" to lessen the impact. No pretense. </em> OK, I think I’d go with what Baker said.

I understand Mateo doesn’t want to plead guilty to anything in public right now and ruin his chance to get a more lenient court result later on than the maximum one year in prison he now faces. He is simply covering his butt as his lawyer has instructed. The Mariners are going along with that plan and that’s their perogative.

But we don’t have to.

If we’re going to be asked by a ballplayer to print an apology, then we shouldn’t have to pretend he is apologizing for stuff he may or may not have done. That’s just ridiculous. So, there it is. No “alleged” to lessen the impact. No pretense.

]]> By: Gomez http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-181936 Gomez Tue, 08 May 2007 04:11:09 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-181936 Certainly, and without that information, I'm probably in agreement with everybody that says we not rush to judgment. Certainly, and without that information, I’m probably in agreement with everybody that says we not rush to judgment.

]]> By: Lauren, token chick http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-181897 Lauren, token chick Tue, 08 May 2007 03:42:37 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-181897 Geoff Baker's blog update and the statement from Mateo certainly does make it sound like he committed the violent acts. Now that this is out, though, I still don't feel bad about not presuming he was guilty yesterday. Geoff Baker’s blog update and the statement from Mateo certainly does make it sound like he committed the violent acts. Now that this is out, though, I still don’t feel bad about not presuming he was guilty yesterday.

]]> By: Gomez http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/comment-page-2/#comment-181834 Gomez Tue, 08 May 2007 02:27:00 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/05/julio-mateo-under-questioning-for-assault/#comment-181834 Ah, noted. Ah, noted.

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