Comments on: Game 32, Yankees at Mariners http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:19:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: msb http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183723 msb Sun, 13 May 2007 21:56:55 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183723 I saw all the ones on Amazon, etc. but they seem to be 're-conditioned', and as that is what he has right now, prob. not all that much of an upgrade :) I saw all the ones on Amazon, etc. but they seem to be ‘re-conditioned’, and as that is what he has right now, prob. not all that much of an upgrade :)

]]> By: joser http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183722 joser Sun, 13 May 2007 20:25:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183722 <blockquote><i>msb says</i>: so, are there any Seattle-area stores that sell out-of-favor electronics? I have a father looking for a small tv/vcr combo, which are oddly hard to find these days.</blockquote>Shipping might be a bitch, but there's no lack of them on <a href="http://amazon.com/s/ref=sr_kk_1/002-8790055-2568010?ie=UTF8&search-alias=electronics&field-keywords=tv%20vcr%20combo" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a>. Also, if you don't mind "pre-owned" you might try <a href="http://seattle.craigslist.org/search/ele?query=vcr&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max" rel="nofollow">Craigslist</a> -- there are a couple on there right now in the Seattle area for ~$20.

msb says:
so, are there any Seattle-area stores that sell out-of-favor electronics? I have a father looking for a small tv/vcr combo, which are oddly hard to find these days.

Shipping might be a bitch, but there’s no lack of them on Amazon. Also, if you don’t mind “pre-owned” you might try Craigslist — there are a couple on there right now in the Seattle area for ~$20.

]]> By: John D. http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183721 John D. Sun, 13 May 2007 20:20:59 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183721 SAFECO wasn't designed for anyone with a bat in his hand. (See # 45, # 51, and others.) The early spin exhulted in the cavernous character of the place, carrying on about the resurrection of the three-base hit. (See also the following column: http://tinyurl.com/2jvn6b [Some think that it was purposely designed that way to discourage high-priced free agent hitters from wanting to come here.] SAFECO wasn’t designed for anyone with a bat in his hand. (See # 45, # 51, and others.)
The early spin exhulted in the cavernous character of the place, carrying on about the resurrection of the three-base hit.
(See also the following column:
http://tinyurl.com/2jvn6b
[Some think that it was purposely designed that way to discourage high-priced free agent hitters from wanting to come here.]

]]> By: Karen http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183720 Karen Sun, 13 May 2007 19:44:17 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183720 msb: <i>so, are there any Seattle-area stores that sell out-of-favor electronics? I have a father looking for a small tv/vcr combo, which are oddly hard to find these days.</i> I have an extra and available 13" all-in-one TV/VCR with remote, white case, that my nephew is currently using b/c his old TV broke down (i.e., barely used), but his mom is getting him a flat screen TV for HS graduation. It cost me ~$100. Trouble is, it's here with me on the north coast of Oregon. Long way to go for a $100 TV.... :) msb: so, are there any Seattle-area stores that sell out-of-favor electronics? I have a father looking for a small tv/vcr combo, which are oddly hard to find these days.

I have an extra and available 13″ all-in-one TV/VCR with remote, white case, that my nephew is currently using b/c his old TV broke down (i.e., barely used), but his mom is getting him a flat screen TV for HS graduation. It cost me ~$100.

Trouble is, it’s here with me on the north coast of Oregon. Long way to go for a $100 TV…. :)

]]> By: AuburnM http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183719 AuburnM Sun, 13 May 2007 18:40:43 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183719 I am also very worried about the rotation, but how about talking about the future rather than the past? What are the right moves now? Dumping Weaver and giving Baek a real shot is a good move. How many more chances do Batista and HoRam get? If you give up on them what are your options? Woods? Morrow?, Feierabend? O'Flaherty? Are there realistic trades out there? I am also very worried about the rotation, but how about talking about the future rather than the past?

What are the right moves now? Dumping Weaver and giving Baek a real shot is a good move.

How many more chances do Batista and HoRam get? If you give up on them what are your options? Woods? Morrow?, Feierabend? O’Flaherty? Are there realistic trades out there?

]]> By: Crushgroovin http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183718 Crushgroovin Sun, 13 May 2007 18:35:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183718 Howard Lincoln goes first, word is the folks back in Japan aren't real happy with how he is running their franchise. Then Bavasi Then Grover New GM Lee Pelekoudas Howard Lincoln goes first, word is the folks back in Japan aren’t real happy with how he is running their franchise.

Then Bavasi
Then Grover

New GM Lee Pelekoudas

]]> By: Tom http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183717 Tom Sun, 13 May 2007 11:32:19 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183717 Well, I must say that watching Batista pitch was like "Groundhog Day." EVERY SINGLE PITCH was a BELT HIGH FASTBALL. It's truly amazing that Bavasi's acquisitions of Batista, HoRam, and Weaver have actually made the roto WORSE than before when we had Meche and Pineiro. Someone please fire this man NOW. Well, I must say that watching Batista pitch was like “Groundhog Day.”

EVERY SINGLE PITCH was a BELT HIGH FASTBALL.

It’s truly amazing that Bavasi’s acquisitions of Batista, HoRam, and Weaver have actually made the roto WORSE than before when we had Meche and Pineiro.

Someone please fire this man NOW.

]]> By: NBarnes http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183715 NBarnes Sun, 13 May 2007 10:50:46 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183715 What 82 said. What 82 said.

]]> By: JMHawkins http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183713 JMHawkins Sun, 13 May 2007 08:42:01 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183713 <i>The general consensus I’m seeing is the jury is still out on HoRam, but Weaver’s signing has been written off as a complete abortion.</i> Actually, the general consensus around my house is that HoRam is a disaster and Weaver is just a failed roll of the dice. HoRam cost us a good reliever. Weaver cost a bunch of money that the team obviously wasn't going to spend on anything useful anyway. Next year, Weaver is 100% off the books and we pay no further for him, but Soriano will still be in a Braves uniform. I think it was possible Weaver could have turned out to be a decent #4 or #5. He had been a functional ML pitcher previously in his career, but clearly he'd lost too much velocity on his fastball (maybe he really is hurt and they aren't just playing roster games with the DL stint). For $8M, he would have been way overpriced even if he had worked out, but it was a one year deal signed late enough that there wasn't anyone else left worth that money, and if they didn't spend it in 2007, I doubt it would have been added to the 2008 budget. HoRam has very little chance of ever being anything better than replacement level, and they gave up a good reliever to get him. With Soriano gone, the M's then had to bring Morrow up as the RH setup guy instead of leaving him in Tacoma to work on becoming a profession Starter. I'm not as pessimistic as Dave about Morrow's ultimate future as a starter, but at this point even if he does convert back to starting, it's unlikely he'll be ready for the rotation in 2008, and we desperately need starters (duh). HoRam has ended up costing us a reliever and a starter, and he has no more upside than Baek, or any of a dozen marginal starters wandering between teams. Sorry, what were we talking about? The general consensus I’m seeing is the jury is still out on HoRam, but Weaver’s signing has been written off as a complete abortion.

Actually, the general consensus around my house is that HoRam is a disaster and Weaver is just a failed roll of the dice. HoRam cost us a good reliever. Weaver cost a bunch of money that the team obviously wasn’t going to spend on anything useful anyway. Next year, Weaver is 100% off the books and we pay no further for him, but Soriano will still be in a Braves uniform.

I think it was possible Weaver could have turned out to be a decent #4 or #5. He had been a functional ML pitcher previously in his career, but clearly he’d lost too much velocity on his fastball (maybe he really is hurt and they aren’t just playing roster games with the DL stint). For $8M, he would have been way overpriced even if he had worked out, but it was a one year deal signed late enough that there wasn’t anyone else left worth that money, and if they didn’t spend it in 2007, I doubt it would have been added to the 2008 budget.

HoRam has very little chance of ever being anything better than replacement level, and they gave up a good reliever to get him. With Soriano gone, the M’s then had to bring Morrow up as the RH setup guy instead of leaving him in Tacoma to work on becoming a profession Starter. I’m not as pessimistic as Dave about Morrow’s ultimate future as a starter, but at this point even if he does convert back to starting, it’s unlikely he’ll be ready for the rotation in 2008, and we desperately need starters (duh). HoRam has ended up costing us a reliever and a starter, and he has no more upside than Baek, or any of a dozen marginal starters wandering between teams.

Sorry, what were we talking about?

]]> By: Mike G. http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/comment-page-2/#comment-183712 Mike G. Sun, 13 May 2007 07:56:49 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/05/12/game-32-yankees-at-mariners/#comment-183712 Hmmmm... well that kind of sucked. At least that L was a team effort. Hmmmm… well that kind of sucked. At least that L was a team effort.

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