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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/06/20/thats-why-we-love-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-198808</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, we&#039;ve been disappointed as fans for the past 30 years.  One good outing by the team&#039;s worst starter, as enjoyable as it might be for 21 hours, does not constitute &quot;turning a corner.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, we&#8217;ve been disappointed as fans for the past 30 years.  One good outing by the team&#8217;s worst starter, as enjoyable as it might be for 21 hours, does not constitute &#8220;turning a corner.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: IMissBenDavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>IMissBenDavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Weaver turned in a fine performance. For all those saying &quot;Yeah, but its the PIRATES&quot;, remember that that&#039;s what most teams say about the Mariners! No one wants to drink the kool-aid about turning a corner because we&#039;ve been so dissapointed as fans the last 5 years. Carpe Diem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Weaver turned in a fine performance. For all those saying &#8220;Yeah, but its the PIRATES&#8221;, remember that that&#8217;s what most teams say about the Mariners! No one wants to drink the kool-aid about turning a corner because we&#8217;ve been so dissapointed as fans the last 5 years. Carpe Diem</p>
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		<title>By: Max Power</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The awesome thing about Safeco being a Pitch F/X park is that we can look at the actual velocity and movement of his pitches compared to previous starts and see if this was a stuff improvement or simple regression to the mean. &lt;/i&gt;

Interesting to see - it looked like his velocity was up a bit especially in the middle innings and his location with the breaking pitches was a little better but not that much.  I&#039;d guess 20% Weaver, 50% Pirates, 30% Safeco/luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The awesome thing about Safeco being a Pitch F/X park is that we can look at the actual velocity and movement of his pitches compared to previous starts and see if this was a stuff improvement or simple regression to the mean. </i></p>
<p>Interesting to see &#8211; it looked like his velocity was up a bit especially in the middle innings and his location with the breaking pitches was a little better but not that much.  I&#8217;d guess 20% Weaver, 50% Pirates, 30% Safeco/luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My warm, fuzzy feeling after the game last night didn&#039;t evaporate even after I turned on the Angel/Astro game to see Anaheim score 6 runs on 1 hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My warm, fuzzy feeling after the game last night didn&#8217;t evaporate even after I turned on the Angel/Astro game to see Anaheim score 6 runs on 1 hit.</p>
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		<title>By: bergamot</title>
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		<dc:creator>bergamot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears there&#039;s no inception of a movement here to get Jeff Weaver a contract extension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears there&#8217;s no inception of a movement here to get Jeff Weaver a contract extension.</p>
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		<title>By: DKCecil</title>
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		<dc:creator>DKCecil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynical much, 27? This is by far the best pitching performance we have seen, or will get, this season from Mr. Weaver. Enjoy it for a day and try not to think about a million other things that can go wrong instead of or because of it. That&#039;s an unhealthy attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynical much, 27? This is by far the best pitching performance we have seen, or will get, this season from Mr. Weaver. Enjoy it for a day and try not to think about a million other things that can go wrong instead of or because of it. That&#8217;s an unhealthy attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: gag harbor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gag harbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s, THE PIRATES. How much emphasis can be put on a pitching performance that Baek or any other replacement level pitcher can pull out of his pocket against a team like the Pirates? I&#039;m sure the Pittsburgh fans are not impressed because this does tend to happen to the Pirates from time to time. The Mariners played pretty bad for the six games prior and Weaver hasn&#039;t pitched to his salary level this year. This team is still the same group that gives up more runs than they score. My only regret is that Hargrove and Weaver will both be around for at least another 5 games. At this point, the losing would be worth it to rid us of them and the others. Imagine this team without the Japanese all-stars that fell in their lap and are now carrying the load for everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s, THE PIRATES. How much emphasis can be put on a pitching performance that Baek or any other replacement level pitcher can pull out of his pocket against a team like the Pirates? I&#8217;m sure the Pittsburgh fans are not impressed because this does tend to happen to the Pirates from time to time. The Mariners played pretty bad for the six games prior and Weaver hasn&#8217;t pitched to his salary level this year. This team is still the same group that gives up more runs than they score. My only regret is that Hargrove and Weaver will both be around for at least another 5 games. At this point, the losing would be worth it to rid us of them and the others. Imagine this team without the Japanese all-stars that fell in their lap and are now carrying the load for everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. If Weaver can make three more starts in the next month where he pitches through at least 6 innings without giving up more than three runs, I&#039;ll start drinking the koolaid.  Until then, it&#039;s just a flukey outing against a bad team.

&lt;i&gt;Is the moderator actually admitting that, in baseball, â€œsometimes, stuffâ€ happens, that not EVERYTHING can be reduced to numbers and computations?&lt;/i&gt;

If by &quot;moderator&quot; you mean Dave, who consistently reports scouts&#039; opinions on players and regularly performs eyeball evalutations of pitching, I think you&#039;re barking up the wrong tree.  In fact, you&#039;re in the wrong forest entirely.  But hey, if you want to make a public ass of yourself by setting up straw man arguments, go right ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. If Weaver can make three more starts in the next month where he pitches through at least 6 innings without giving up more than three runs, I&#8217;ll start drinking the koolaid.  Until then, it&#8217;s just a flukey outing against a bad team.</p>
<p><i>Is the moderator actually admitting that, in baseball, â€œsometimes, stuffâ€ happens, that not EVERYTHING can be reduced to numbers and computations?</i></p>
<p>If by &#8220;moderator&#8221; you mean Dave, who consistently reports scouts&#8217; opinions on players and regularly performs eyeball evalutations of pitching, I think you&#8217;re barking up the wrong tree.  In fact, you&#8217;re in the wrong forest entirely.  But hey, if you want to make a public ass of yourself by setting up straw man arguments, go right ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: bellacaramella</title>
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		<dc:creator>bellacaramella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Weaver. The Blind Squirrel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Weaver. The Blind Squirrel.</p>
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		<title>By: JMB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlos Pena (minor league deal with Tampa Bay) is kicking Dobbs&#039; butt in that voting, Jim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlos Pena (minor league deal with Tampa Bay) is kicking Dobbs&#8217; butt in that voting, Jim.</p>
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