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		<title>By: Shawnuel</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/07/16/weekend-roundup/comment-page-3/#comment-208593</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawnuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#101 -  I was listening at that time and becoming apoplectic. I was traveling to my home in west Olympia and while driving over a lake, felt like swerving into a bridge abutment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#101 &#8211;  I was listening at that time and becoming apoplectic. I was traveling to my home in west Olympia and while driving over a lake, felt like swerving into a bridge abutment.</p>
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		<title>By: bookbook</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/07/16/weekend-roundup/comment-page-3/#comment-208451</link>
		<dc:creator>bookbook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+ Itâ€™s often said that â€œWinners never say, â€˜It not whether you win or lose, itâ€™s how you play the game.â€™â€ +

Is that often said? Only by Seattle sports radio personalities, I&#039;d wager.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+ Itâ€™s often said that â€œWinners never say, â€˜It not whether you win or lose, itâ€™s how you play the game.â€™â€ +</p>
<p>Is that often said? Only by Seattle sports radio personalities, I&#8217;d wager.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/07/16/weekend-roundup/comment-page-3/#comment-208230</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh. Gas is baffled by criticism of Vidro (he&#039;s hitting 280!) &amp; HoRam (he&#039;s 4 and 2!) -- &#039;why talk like they were unmitigated disasters! look at the numbers! the numbers don&#039;t bear it out!&#039;  and why people think the Soriano/Ramiriz deal was a bad idea (&#039;you needed a starter, and you got one&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh. Gas is baffled by criticism of Vidro (he&#8217;s hitting 280!) &amp; HoRam (he&#8217;s 4 and 2!) &#8212; &#8216;why talk like they were unmitigated disasters! look at the numbers! the numbers don&#8217;t bear it out!&#8217;  and why people think the Soriano/Ramiriz deal was a bad idea (&#8216;you needed a starter, and you got one&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: SpokaneMsFan</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/07/16/weekend-roundup/comment-page-2/#comment-208221</link>
		<dc:creator>SpokaneMsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, was Woods really DFA&#039;d? I don&#039;t seem to see an official transaction release on the team&#039;s website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, was Woods really DFA&#8217;d? I don&#8217;t seem to see an official transaction release on the team&#8217;s website.</p>
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		<title>By: wabbles</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/07/16/weekend-roundup/comment-page-2/#comment-208209</link>
		<dc:creator>wabbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s often said that &quot;Winners never say, &#039;It not whether you win or lose, it&#039;s how you play the game.&#039;&quot; So, it&#039;s refreshing for winnres to take a look at how they are playing the game for once. Good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s often said that &#8220;Winners never say, &#8216;It not whether you win or lose, it&#8217;s how you play the game.&#8217;&#8221; So, it&#8217;s refreshing for winnres to take a look at how they are playing the game for once. Good job.</p>
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		<title>By: s.bender21</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/07/16/weekend-roundup/comment-page-2/#comment-208195</link>
		<dc:creator>s.bender21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I completely agree and love the Granderson comparison. Obviously with Granderson being a lefty and hitting against Major League pitching the numbers are a little skewed. I am all for a Jones call up and rotating Raul and Vidro and Sexson at DH. Maybe give Jones a day off against hard throwing right handers throughout the rest of the season so he doesn&#039;t strike out quite as much and lose some confidence.

#18 - My son throws righty and bats lefty. Just the way he does it, don&#039;t know why just comfortable to him I guess. Am going to try to get him to bat switch once he gets a little older.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I completely agree and love the Granderson comparison. Obviously with Granderson being a lefty and hitting against Major League pitching the numbers are a little skewed. I am all for a Jones call up and rotating Raul and Vidro and Sexson at DH. Maybe give Jones a day off against hard throwing right handers throughout the rest of the season so he doesn&#8217;t strike out quite as much and lose some confidence.</p>
<p>#18 &#8211; My son throws righty and bats lefty. Just the way he does it, don&#8217;t know why just comfortable to him I guess. Am going to try to get him to bat switch once he gets a little older.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/07/16/weekend-roundup/comment-page-2/#comment-208188</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno...AJ may strike out too much right now, but the kind of things I think he needs to learn now are things best learned at the major league level...

I mean, how much more can you punish a ball than he has? What he needs to do is to learn how to handle balls that aren&#039;t mistakes and the best thing to do that is at the majors; I get the feeling that minor league pitchers aren&#039;t good enough to throw enough non-mistake pitches without throwing balls AJ can smack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno&#8230;AJ may strike out too much right now, but the kind of things I think he needs to learn now are things best learned at the major league level&#8230;</p>
<p>I mean, how much more can you punish a ball than he has? What he needs to do is to learn how to handle balls that aren&#8217;t mistakes and the best thing to do that is at the majors; I get the feeling that minor league pitchers aren&#8217;t good enough to throw enough non-mistake pitches without throwing balls AJ can smack.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once you understand the predictive power of a skillset, you won&#039;t care about things like current XBH totals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once you understand the predictive power of a skillset, you won&#8217;t care about things like current XBH totals.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/07/16/weekend-roundup/comment-page-2/#comment-208181</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;
\Center Field    BB%     K%      LD%     BABIP   ISO

Granderson      7.5%    22.6%   23.0%   0.358   0.273
Adam Jones      7.3%    22.6%   22.0%   0.357   0.283

When we talk about promoting Adam Jones, one of the initial reactions from the skeptics is that he strikes out too much, and his current numbers suggest that his current skillset wonâ€™t translate well to the major leagues. Curtis Granderson disagrees. They have, essentially, almost identical skillsets.&lt;/em&gt;

Still Dave, does Jones project to steal as many bases or hit as many extra base hits as Granderson?</description>
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\Center Field    BB%     K%      LD%     BABIP   ISO</p>
<p>Granderson      7.5%    22.6%   23.0%   0.358   0.273<br />
Adam Jones      7.3%    22.6%   22.0%   0.357   0.283</p>
<p>When we talk about promoting Adam Jones, one of the initial reactions from the skeptics is that he strikes out too much, and his current numbers suggest that his current skillset wonâ€™t translate well to the major leagues. Curtis Granderson disagrees. They have, essentially, almost identical skillsets.</em></p>
<p>Still Dave, does Jones project to steal as many bases or hit as many extra base hits as Granderson?</p>
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		<title>By: debaser</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/07/16/weekend-roundup/comment-page-2/#comment-208177</link>
		<dc:creator>debaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Grady Sizemore strikes out a lot too. Who cares.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s really not fair. Sizemore has always had good walk per PA ratios, and this year has 56 walks in 427 PAs. The skeptics are hesitant not because AJ strikes out too much, but that he doesn&#039;t walk enough to offset that strikeout ratio, so much so that I think the concerns that he&#039;ll be fooled more easily as a 21-year old dealing w/big-league pitching are at least somewhat valid.

I think Dave&#039;s point from an earlier thread that   Jones would hit .270/.330/.450 might be a bit too high, but probably close enough. (Were I to guess, I&#039;d say closer to .250/.310/.410, but that still, as was pointed out in that thread, is at least as good as Vidro, but with a significant defensive upgrade.) I just wish he&#039;d learn better plate discipline, and doesn&#039;t become Juan Encarnacion. I think we&#039;d all be disappointed if that&#039;s who AJ&#039;s career resembled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Grady Sizemore strikes out a lot too. Who cares.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s really not fair. Sizemore has always had good walk per PA ratios, and this year has 56 walks in 427 PAs. The skeptics are hesitant not because AJ strikes out too much, but that he doesn&#8217;t walk enough to offset that strikeout ratio, so much so that I think the concerns that he&#8217;ll be fooled more easily as a 21-year old dealing w/big-league pitching are at least somewhat valid.</p>
<p>I think Dave&#8217;s point from an earlier thread that   Jones would hit .270/.330/.450 might be a bit too high, but probably close enough. (Were I to guess, I&#8217;d say closer to .250/.310/.410, but that still, as was pointed out in that thread, is at least as good as Vidro, but with a significant defensive upgrade.) I just wish he&#8217;d learn better plate discipline, and doesn&#8217;t become Juan Encarnacion. I think we&#8217;d all be disappointed if that&#8217;s who AJ&#8217;s career resembled.</p>
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