Comments on: Jeff Weaver, Junkballer http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:35:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: [I DID NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE NAMING RULES AND NEED TO CHANGE MY NAME] http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-4/#comment-223082 [I DID NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE NAMING RULES AND NEED TO CHANGE MY NAME] Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:27:31 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-223082 Even when Jeff Weaver is pitching well, it is still torture to watch him throw. He could have easily blown the game in the first two innings but he got very lucky and got out of a bases loaded jam. Only time will tell if Jeff Weaver can pitch like that every fith game. Its the same with Sexson. If Weaver starts winning consistently and Sexson starts hitting in clutch sitiuations, the Mariners have a good shot at the playoffs Even when Jeff Weaver is pitching well, it is still torture to watch him throw. He could have easily blown the game in the first two innings but he got very lucky and got out of a bases loaded jam.
Only time will tell if Jeff Weaver can pitch like that every fith game. Its the same with Sexson.
If Weaver starts winning consistently and Sexson starts hitting in clutch sitiuations, the Mariners have a good shot at the playoffs

]]> By: Dave http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-4/#comment-222564 Dave Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:48:19 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-222564 Sorry about the contract screwup - that's what I get for going from memory and not looking things up. I withdraw all support for a Contreras trade, in lieu of the extra year tagged on the end of that deal. Sorry about the contract screwup – that’s what I get for going from memory and not looking things up. I withdraw all support for a Contreras trade, in lieu of the extra year tagged on the end of that deal.

]]> By: DMZ http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-4/#comment-222555 DMZ Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:34:01 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-222555 Game comments pruned: there's a game thread for this now. Game comments pruned: there’s a game thread for this now.

]]> By: joser http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-4/#comment-222541 joser Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:24:48 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-222541 Santana's <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/p-pvb.cgi?n1=santajo02&year=0#choice=&throws=&minPA2=0&minPA=0&orderbydir=DESC&orderbydirb=ASC&n1=santajo02&as=pitcher&year_game=career&opp_id=SEA&orderby=PA&orderbyb=Name" rel="nofollow">splits vs M's</a> Santana has more wins against the M's than he has against any team not in the AL Central. Though he only has one start at Safeco -- the game in April(?) where the M's were beaten by a double steal, of all things. Well, that started the slide anyway. If MacLaren gets as outmanaged in that game as Hargrove clearly was, I'll scream. Santana’s splits vs M’s

Santana has more wins against the M’s than he has against any team not in the AL Central. Though he only has one start at Safeco — the game in April(?) where the M’s were beaten by a double steal, of all things. Well, that started the slide anyway. If MacLaren gets as outmanaged in that game as Hargrove clearly was, I’ll scream.

]]> By: argh http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-4/#comment-222529 argh Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:02:14 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-222529 Well, I'm off to Safeco in a few minutes to study Mac's latest defensive contraption up close and personal -- row 139, row 6 so my opportunity to be killed by a foul ball while watching Willy is low (perhaps only 5 in 50,000) but still on the table. Well, I’m off to Safeco in a few minutes to study Mac’s latest defensive contraption up close and personal — row 139, row 6 so my opportunity to be killed by a foul ball while watching Willy is low (perhaps only 5 in 50,000) but still on the table.

]]> By: beck21 http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-3/#comment-222530 beck21 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:02:12 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-222530 156/Bram ... Where did you find batter vs pitcher OPS. That's what I was looking for (though it probably wouldn't make a difference to our manager). 156/Bram … Where did you find batter vs pitcher OPS. That’s what I was looking for (though it probably wouldn’t make a difference to our manager).

]]> By: bram http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-3/#comment-222524 bram Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:44:38 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-222524 Adrian Beltre OPS vs. Johan Santana: .762 Adrian Beltre OPS vs. Johan Santana: .762

]]> By: beck21 http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-3/#comment-222523 beck21 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:40:06 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-222523 Never mind... Finally found it. Beltre is 4-14 (.286) w/ 4 K's vs. Santana. Lopez is 1-12 (Though the one is an HR). Honestly, the one guy with any sample size is Ral who has .500 SLG and is 11-28 with an HR. (From Sportsline.com) Still, nothing that makes me think it's a good idea to take away two great defensive infielders and put in one terrible one and one mediocre one. With a ground ball pitcher on the mound, no less. Regardless, GO M's. Never mind… Finally found it.
Beltre is 4-14 (.286) w/ 4 K’s vs. Santana.
Lopez is 1-12 (Though the one is an HR).

Honestly, the one guy with any sample size is Ral who has .500 SLG and is 11-28 with an HR.

(From Sportsline.com)

Still, nothing that makes me think it’s a good idea to take away two great defensive infielders and put in one terrible one and one mediocre one. With a ground ball pitcher on the mound, no less.

Regardless, GO M’s.

]]> By: gwangung http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-3/#comment-222522 gwangung Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:38:24 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-222522 Or is Beltre hurt? (But even then...you should keep Lopez in to compensate...) Or is Beltre hurt?

(But even then…you should keep Lopez in to compensate…)

]]> By: msb http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/comment-page-3/#comment-222520 msb Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:31:42 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2007/08/13/jeff-weaver-junkballer/#comment-222520 Jamie Burke on Weaver: “From the first inning on, he had control of four pitches,” Burke said. “When a starter has four, you’re sitting pretty. Hitters try to think with you, so you mess them up. You call different pitches in different at-bats with the same count. “Jeff was throwing strike one all day, getting ahead. That makes it even easier.” It was weird because one through nine [innings], everything was the same," said catcher Jamie Burke. "It didn't seem like he was losing anything on his cutter or slider." Jamie Burke on Weaver:

“From the first inning on, he had control of four pitches,” Burke said. “When a starter has four, you’re sitting pretty. Hitters try to think with you, so you mess them up. You call different pitches in different at-bats with the same count. “Jeff was throwing strike one all day, getting ahead. That makes it even easier.”

It was weird because one through nine [innings], everything was the same,” said catcher Jamie Burke. “It didn’t seem like he was losing anything on his cutter or slider.”

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