Comments on: More Free Agent Pitcher Badness

By: bookbook

bookbook — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:38:30 +0000

The O’s aren’t going to trade Bedard.

Realistic trade options are more of the Scott Baker ilk. Potential #3′s are out there and can probably be pried away for talent (Clement+ or something).

Potential Cy Young award winners – no one’s going to trade them for anything the M’s would/should pay.

By: terry

terry — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:30:46 +0000

I doubt the Ms could break into the Japanese market for players.

By: Bearman

Bearman — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:47:26 +0000

I agree the M’s will have to turn to other avenues of aquiring SP help this offseason other than MLB FA.
Those avenues are:
Trade:For the right OF help the Twins may part with P Scott Baker(Maybe a straight up deal Balentien for Baker).
Try and work prospect deal for Sexson even with a partial pick up of salary by the M’s.
See the trade price for Harang of the Reds or Bedard of Baltimore.

IN House:
Serious look at Ryan Roland-Smith,Ryan Freierabend,Brandon Morrow,Baek,and Eric O’Flaherty as possible replacement for either Weaver and/or Ramirez in the #4 and 5 slots in the rotation.
The M’s have to start finding to a much larger extent their players from within or why bother maintaining a minor leagues system.

The M’s must start turning to Japanese league FA to aquire needed talent if all other venues fail and the M’s must also consider being a bit more pushy in the bidding wars for Japanese talent of need.

By: scott19

scott19 — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:14:24 +0000

Geez, how bad is that FA class without Lilly’s and Meche’s numbers figured in?

By: terry

terry — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 06:25:57 +0000

It’s a bit of hair splitting to suggest the posting fee shouldn’t count toward the cost of Matsuzaka isn’t it?

Really its not the signing of a big name pitcher that is the issue. Dice K, Pettitte, Clemens, even Mussina arguably could be classified as positive moves. Why? Because those deals largely manage risk well. It’s the >4 year deals for insane money to pitchers approaching their decline years that really are the issue. Even then, if Johan Santana was a FA after this year, a five year deal would probably be a nobrainer.

By: Teej

Teej — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 06:01:35 +0000

Shouldnâ€™t Dice K be on the list?

Matsuzaka will make an average of $8.6 million per year over the course of his contract. Dave’s list is of pitchers who are making $10 million a year or more.

Now if you factor in the posting fee paid to his former team, that obviously changes, but that’s not technically part of the contract.

By: gwangung

gwangung — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:01:00 +0000

Speaking of pitching and how to acquire it. I donâ€™t remember a guy from the Mâ€™s minor leagues this year that went down with major arm surgery. Just a year ago USS Mariner did the big article about attrition didnâ€™t they?
Perhaps theyâ€™re not so unlucky or bad any more at it?

Wait till the regression to the mean…

By: Dobbs

Dobbs — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:44:51 +0000

Speaking of pitching and how to acquire it. I don’t remember a guy from the M’s minor leagues this year that went down with major arm surgery. Just a year ago USS Mariner did the big article about attrition didn’t they?

Perhaps they’re not so unlucky or bad any more at it?

By: DAMellen

DAMellen — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:55:16 +0000

So then where do you think we could get some pitching? How much are we really going to get for Wlad and Clemmy?

By: bakomariner

bakomariner — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:32:10 +0000

we are not getting santana…we’d have to give up the farm…not gonna happen…move on to another topic worth discussing…