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	<title>Comments on: Horacio Ramirez, a historical perspective</title>
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		<title>By: pumpkinhead</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/09/17/horacio-ramirez-a-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-237064</link>
		<dc:creator>pumpkinhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, that reminds me of a song...

&quot;Nothing from Nothing means Nothing.&quot;  Even the song gets it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, that reminds me of a song&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Nothing from Nothing means Nothing.&#8221;  Even the song gets it right.</p>
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		<title>By: pumpkinhead</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/09/17/horacio-ramirez-a-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-237060</link>
		<dc:creator>pumpkinhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, lets see.

Previously Garbage + Currently Garbage = Worth a spot in the rotation?  I don&#039;t get the math either.

Maybe they were under the assumption that, &#039;well, he can only get better, right?&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, lets see.</p>
<p>Previously Garbage + Currently Garbage = Worth a spot in the rotation?  I don&#8217;t get the math either.</p>
<p>Maybe they were under the assumption that, &#8216;well, he can only get better, right?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/09/17/horacio-ramirez-a-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-236992</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks to me that only Fassero, Oliver, and Drabek on that list got more starts than Ramirez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks to me that only Fassero, Oliver, and Drabek on that list got more starts than Ramirez.</p>
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		<title>By: davepaisley</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/09/17/horacio-ramirez-a-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-236956</link>
		<dc:creator>davepaisley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time, Derek, you&#039;ll just have to write a 5,000 word post about how Geoff Baker&#039;s opinion of HoRam is all wrong :O

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time, Derek, you&#8217;ll just have to write a 5,000 word post about how Geoff Baker&#8217;s opinion of HoRam is all wrong :O</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sad_loyal_fan</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/09/17/horacio-ramirez-a-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-236942</link>
		<dc:creator>sad_loyal_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry you&#039;re feeling lonely DMZ, but thinking about how the front office evaluates pitchers depresses me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry you&#8217;re feeling lonely DMZ, but thinking about how the front office evaluates pitchers depresses me.</p>
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		<title>By: jdsiii</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/09/17/horacio-ramirez-a-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-236937</link>
		<dc:creator>jdsiii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how long before Padilla becomes a candidate to fill a rotation spot next year when/if Ramirez is gone now that he&#039;s worn out his welcome in Texas?  Can he really be worse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how long before Padilla becomes a candidate to fill a rotation spot next year when/if Ramirez is gone now that he&#8217;s worn out his welcome in Texas?  Can he really be worse?</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/09/17/horacio-ramirez-a-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-236886</link>
		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 03:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20:  You&#039;re right about that...I guess we all (or a lot of us, anyway) looked back at the half-assedly mediocre season that the Cards played for most of last year and thought that maybe these guys, too, might somehow catch &quot;lightning in a bottle.&quot; :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20:  You&#8217;re right about that&#8230;I guess we all (or a lot of us, anyway) looked back at the half-assedly mediocre season that the Cards played for most of last year and thought that maybe these guys, too, might somehow catch &#8220;lightning in a bottle.&#8221; <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Oly Rainiers Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/09/17/horacio-ramirez-a-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-236879</link>
		<dc:creator>Oly Rainiers Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 02:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just McLaren that was suffering from Alternate Reality Syndrome.  It&#039;s pretty much all the fans who spent a couple months deluding themselves that this team as constructed was playoff-bound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just McLaren that was suffering from Alternate Reality Syndrome.  It&#8217;s pretty much all the fans who spent a couple months deluding themselves that this team as constructed was playoff-bound.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/09/17/horacio-ramirez-a-historical-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-236860</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; 1: I wouldnâ€™t necessarily hold my breath for that to happenâ€¦after all, this is the guy who once thought (while in Anaheim) that â€œupgradingâ€ his starting pitching meant acquiring Pat Rapp and Izzy Valdes. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Folks have GOT to remember he&#039;s getting plenty of help in his suckitude.

Many of this same help is gonna be there if Bavasi gets replaced....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> 1: I wouldnâ€™t necessarily hold my breath for that to happenâ€¦after all, this is the guy who once thought (while in Anaheim) that â€œupgradingâ€ his starting pitching meant acquiring Pat Rapp and Izzy Valdes. </p></blockquote>
<p>Folks have GOT to remember he&#8217;s getting plenty of help in his suckitude.</p>
<p>Many of this same help is gonna be there if Bavasi gets replaced&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1:  I wouldn&#039;t necessarily hold my breath for that to happen...after all, this is the guy who once thought (while in Anaheim) that &quot;upgrading&quot; his starting pitching meant acquiring Pat Rapp and Izzy Valdes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1:  I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily hold my breath for that to happen&#8230;after all, this is the guy who once thought (while in Anaheim) that &#8220;upgrading&#8221; his starting pitching meant acquiring Pat Rapp and Izzy Valdes.</p>
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