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		<title>By: NBarnes</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/13/2007-defense-through-pmr/comment-page-1/#comment-248008</link>
		<dc:creator>NBarnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with talking about how Mientkiewicz is a better player and better value than Sexson is that it&#039;s not really an argument about Mientkiewicz or how teams with playoff ambitions could use Mientkiewicz.  It&#039;s about how farcical it is that the Mariners think that they are going to compete for a playoff spot while paying Sexson $15 to put up sub-replacement numbers at a prime offensive position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with talking about how Mientkiewicz is a better player and better value than Sexson is that it&#8217;s not really an argument about Mientkiewicz or how teams with playoff ambitions could use Mientkiewicz.  It&#8217;s about how farcical it is that the Mariners think that they are going to compete for a playoff spot while paying Sexson $15 to put up sub-replacement numbers at a prime offensive position.</p>
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		<title>By: MKT</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/13/2007-defense-through-pmr/comment-page-1/#comment-247970</link>
		<dc:creator>MKT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>31. &lt;i&gt;Baseball analysis is far easier than stock analysis. &lt;/i&gt;

Correct, but in addition to the reasons that you mentioned, there&#039;s another even more important one:  stock markets are fairly close to being &quot;efficient&quot;.  Without going into the Efficient Markets Hypothesis, the bottom line is that markets are SUPPOSED TO BE unpredictable (when they are working efficiently). 

Because if people COULD predict which stock was going to &quot;win the World Series&quot; (i.e. be a big bargain that was going to shoot up in value in 2008) they&#039;d buy it right now.  And it&#039;s price would rise, no longer making it a bargain.

That automatic feedback is what makes stock prices hard to predict:  any predictive information that we have (e.g. Apple&#039;s got good design, Toyota&#039;s got a lead in hybrid cars, etc.) gets incorporated by the market and into the stock&#039;s price.  There is good predictive info out there, but if the market&#039;s working right, it&#039;s already been taken into account.

In contrast, if we have good predictive info that the Royals will likely do worse than the Red Sox in 2008, there is no market which causes the Royal&#039;s &quot;price&quot; to fall and the Red Sox&#039;s to rise, i.e. no mechanism which reacts to the info by giving the Royals an easier schedule and the Red Sox a harder one.  So our predictive info retains it predictive power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>31. <i>Baseball analysis is far easier than stock analysis. </i></p>
<p>Correct, but in addition to the reasons that you mentioned, there&#8217;s another even more important one:  stock markets are fairly close to being &#8220;efficient&#8221;.  Without going into the Efficient Markets Hypothesis, the bottom line is that markets are SUPPOSED TO BE unpredictable (when they are working efficiently). </p>
<p>Because if people COULD predict which stock was going to &#8220;win the World Series&#8221; (i.e. be a big bargain that was going to shoot up in value in 2008) they&#8217;d buy it right now.  And it&#8217;s price would rise, no longer making it a bargain.</p>
<p>That automatic feedback is what makes stock prices hard to predict:  any predictive information that we have (e.g. Apple&#8217;s got good design, Toyota&#8217;s got a lead in hybrid cars, etc.) gets incorporated by the market and into the stock&#8217;s price.  There is good predictive info out there, but if the market&#8217;s working right, it&#8217;s already been taken into account.</p>
<p>In contrast, if we have good predictive info that the Royals will likely do worse than the Red Sox in 2008, there is no market which causes the Royal&#8217;s &#8220;price&#8221; to fall and the Red Sox&#8217;s to rise, i.e. no mechanism which reacts to the info by giving the Royals an easier schedule and the Red Sox a harder one.  So our predictive info retains it predictive power.</p>
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		<title>By: marc w</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/13/2007-defense-through-pmr/comment-page-1/#comment-247950</link>
		<dc:creator>marc w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;After all, Jockettyâ€™s most famous trade in St. Louis was his Farm System-for-Mulder deal&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d guess some St. Louis fans might think his acquisition of Mark McGwire was a bigger deal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;After all, Jockettyâ€™s most famous trade in St. Louis was his Farm System-for-Mulder deal&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d guess some St. Louis fans might think his acquisition of Mark McGwire was a bigger deal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: et_blankenship</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/13/2007-defense-through-pmr/comment-page-1/#comment-247946</link>
		<dc:creator>et_blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does is it seem odd to anyone else that the Reds, in the heat of their Bedard negotiations, would hire Walt Jocketty?  After all, Jockettyâ€™s most famous trade in St. Louis was his Farm System-for-Mulder deal, a colossal train wreck eerily similar to the Reds potential Farm System-for-Bedard deal.  

I wonder if the Reds asked Jocketty, â€œWhat the hell were you thinking?  Because if we are thinking the same thing now you were thinking then, we will pull the plug on this bad boy, pronto.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does is it seem odd to anyone else that the Reds, in the heat of their Bedard negotiations, would hire Walt Jocketty?  After all, Jockettyâ€™s most famous trade in St. Louis was his Farm System-for-Mulder deal, a colossal train wreck eerily similar to the Reds potential Farm System-for-Bedard deal.  </p>
<p>I wonder if the Reds asked Jocketty, â€œWhat the hell were you thinking?  Because if we are thinking the same thing now you were thinking then, we will pull the plug on this bad boy, pronto.â€</p>
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		<title>By: bakomariner</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/13/2007-defense-through-pmr/comment-page-1/#comment-247940</link>
		<dc:creator>bakomariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>41- at least the Ms...that would be nice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>41- at least the Ms&#8230;that would be nice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: et_blankenship</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/13/2007-defense-through-pmr/comment-page-1/#comment-247937</link>
		<dc:creator>et_blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itâ€™s time for the Mariners and Reds to submit simultaneous â€œFUâ€ emails to MacPhail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itâ€™s time for the Mariners and Reds to submit simultaneous â€œFUâ€ emails to MacPhail.</p>
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		<title>By: Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bakomariner</title>
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		<dc:creator>bakomariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>note from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.komoradio.com/marinersradio/shannon/13754922.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drayer&lt;/a&gt; about the &quot;Adam Jones called back&quot; rumor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>note from <a href="http://www.komoradio.com/marinersradio/shannon/13754922.html" rel="nofollow">Drayer</a> about the &#8220;Adam Jones called back&#8221; rumor</p>
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		<title>By: ConorGlassey</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConorGlassey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lailaihei - Head over to LookoutLanding.com and check out Jeffâ€™s â€œDispelling Mythsâ€ 1-3. Theyâ€™re awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lailaihei &#8211; Head over to LookoutLanding.com and check out Jeffâ€™s â€œDispelling Mythsâ€ 1-3. Theyâ€™re awesome!</p>
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