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	<title>Comments on: Today&#8217;s Bedard thread</title>
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		<title>By: Wishhiker</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-4/#comment-250397</link>
		<dc:creator>Wishhiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful analogy, joser.</description>
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		<title>By: Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-4/#comment-250342</link>
		<dc:creator>Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joser - And don&#039;t forget, it&#039;s nearly impossible to teach that old dog new ways of doing things. It&#039;s best if he&#039;s put down, to save the people around him the pain of watching him being useless any longer. Time to get a new, young, idea filled puppy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joser &#8211; And don&#8217;t forget, it&#8217;s nearly impossible to teach that old dog new ways of doing things. It&#8217;s best if he&#8217;s put down, to save the people around him the pain of watching him being useless any longer. Time to get a new, young, idea filled puppy.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-4/#comment-250315</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, as a kid I had a friend who had a dog.  This was an old, old dog.  Older than my friend.  It was mostly blind, and mostly crippled, and it mostly just lay around the house.  But every once in the while some youthful canine memory or instinct would fire up in that addled brain, and it would head down to the basement.  Down there was some old, ugly furniture from the 50s and 60s, including a heavily-upholstered ottoman.  Somehow, in what passed for its doggy mind, this crushed-velvet piece of furniture looked like a bitch in heat; and so, with more enthusiasm than ability, the elderly hound would try to mount the footstool.  

Watching this deal unfold is like watching that dog, with its arthritic spine and hip dysplasia and general lack of coordination, try to consummate its engagement with the furniture: it&#039;s unpleasant to contemplate, tragi-comical to witness, unsatisfying for the participants, and ultimately a disaster to clean up after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, as a kid I had a friend who had a dog.  This was an old, old dog.  Older than my friend.  It was mostly blind, and mostly crippled, and it mostly just lay around the house.  But every once in the while some youthful canine memory or instinct would fire up in that addled brain, and it would head down to the basement.  Down there was some old, ugly furniture from the 50s and 60s, including a heavily-upholstered ottoman.  Somehow, in what passed for its doggy mind, this crushed-velvet piece of furniture looked like a bitch in heat; and so, with more enthusiasm than ability, the elderly hound would try to mount the footstool.  </p>
<p>Watching this deal unfold is like watching that dog, with its arthritic spine and hip dysplasia and general lack of coordination, try to consummate its engagement with the furniture: it&#8217;s unpleasant to contemplate, tragi-comical to witness, unsatisfying for the participants, and ultimately a disaster to clean up after.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Slick</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-4/#comment-250292</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Slick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not seeing how &quot;Bill Bavasi is a bad GM&quot; = &quot;the Mariner management doesn&#039;t care&quot;. I think the management is a lot better off than, say, the Marlins under Wayne Huizenga. At least when Bavasi makes a dunderheaded move like Sori for HoRam, it&#039;s because he has the IQ of soup, not because he is marching on an owner&#039;s directive to cut payroll any way possible.

It&#039;s not that long ago that the above statement *did* describe the M&#039;s. Fans didn&#039;t turn out to see the team throughout the 80s because George Argyros was not, in the end, trying to run a successful baseball operation. The club continually deep-sixed themselves for money reasons, whether they were trading away both Spike Owen and Dave Henderson for Rey Quinones and crap, moving Danny Tartabull for Scott Bankhead and Mike Kingery, or picking Mike Moore over IIRC Daryl Strawberry because they didn&#039;t want to pay the latter player.

Be thankful that this GM is just stupid, not forced to engage in bean-counting (also, Bedard for Jones/Sherrill isn&#039;t that bad of a trade at all).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not seeing how &#8220;Bill Bavasi is a bad GM&#8221; = &#8220;the Mariner management doesn&#8217;t care&#8221;. I think the management is a lot better off than, say, the Marlins under Wayne Huizenga. At least when Bavasi makes a dunderheaded move like Sori for HoRam, it&#8217;s because he has the IQ of soup, not because he is marching on an owner&#8217;s directive to cut payroll any way possible.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that long ago that the above statement *did* describe the M&#8217;s. Fans didn&#8217;t turn out to see the team throughout the 80s because George Argyros was not, in the end, trying to run a successful baseball operation. The club continually deep-sixed themselves for money reasons, whether they were trading away both Spike Owen and Dave Henderson for Rey Quinones and crap, moving Danny Tartabull for Scott Bankhead and Mike Kingery, or picking Mike Moore over IIRC Daryl Strawberry because they didn&#8217;t want to pay the latter player.</p>
<p>Be thankful that this GM is just stupid, not forced to engage in bean-counting (also, Bedard for Jones/Sherrill isn&#8217;t that bad of a trade at all).</p>
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		<title>By: Ballfour</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-4/#comment-250290</link>
		<dc:creator>Ballfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stayed away from baseball for three years because of Barry Bonds and steroids. The Mitchell Report changed my mind and I actually had planned to go to a game or two in &#039;08. If this trade goes through it&#039;s another three years where I won&#039;t give a hoot. If Mariner management doesn&#039;t care - why should I? 

Then again I read the post on how Cleveland and the guys that left that organization have done things in other cities. Wait a second, who am I kidding.......it&#039;s this trade dammit!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stayed away from baseball for three years because of Barry Bonds and steroids. The Mitchell Report changed my mind and I actually had planned to go to a game or two in &#8217;08. If this trade goes through it&#8217;s another three years where I won&#8217;t give a hoot. If Mariner management doesn&#8217;t care &#8211; why should I? </p>
<p>Then again I read the post on how Cleveland and the guys that left that organization have done things in other cities. Wait a second, who am I kidding&#8230;&#8230;.it&#8217;s this trade dammit!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor H</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-250287</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>148 - the O&#039;s are bad, not retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>148 &#8211; the O&#8217;s are bad, not retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Wishhiker</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-250284</link>
		<dc:creator>Wishhiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a better park, scouting, player development and revenues this FO can&#039;t really prove to be worse than the Woodward days, can it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a better park, scouting, player development and revenues this FO can&#8217;t really prove to be worse than the Woodward days, can it?</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-250270</link>
		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just send Angelos HoRam already and be done with it.  Since the O&#039;s probably won&#039;t be in contention for years to come, he&#039;s good enough for that team. :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just send Angelos HoRam already and be done with it.  Since the O&#8217;s probably won&#8217;t be in contention for years to come, he&#8217;s good enough for that team. <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bradderup</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-250267</link>
		<dc:creator>bradderup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Jones has this &quot;hip problem&quot;, would the Orioles consider Clement and Balentien instead?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Jones has this &#8220;hip problem&#8221;, would the Orioles consider Clement and Balentien instead?  <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/01/29/todays-bedard-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-250257</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heck, I DO think this is entertaining. I just find it terribly amusing, no matter what happens and no matter how screwed the Ms get...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, I DO think this is entertaining. I just find it terribly amusing, no matter what happens and no matter how screwed the Ms get&#8230;</p>
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