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	<title>Comments on: Jose Vidro signs with Red Sox</title>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/jose-vidro-signs-with-red-sox/comment-page-2/#comment-251556</link>
		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be fair, I&#039;m sure sometimes the Mariners look at a guy and say &quot;Useful bench player if he&#039;ll play for nothing,&quot; and then find out that basically, most of those guys aren&#039;t willing to play for nothing in Seattle.  (But are willing to play for nothing to be in, say, Boston.)

Hmm.  It&#039;d be funny to try to collect The Mayor (Casey), the Governor (Sherrill), and El Presidente (Santana) all on a team someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be fair, I&#8217;m sure sometimes the Mariners look at a guy and say &#8220;Useful bench player if he&#8217;ll play for nothing,&#8221; and then find out that basically, most of those guys aren&#8217;t willing to play for nothing in Seattle.  (But are willing to play for nothing to be in, say, Boston.)</p>
<p>Hmm.  It&#8217;d be funny to try to collect The Mayor (Casey), the Governor (Sherrill), and El Presidente (Santana) all on a team someday.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/jose-vidro-signs-with-red-sox/comment-page-2/#comment-251402</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, I bet Hickey &amp; Bedard both think Vidro is just Sean Casey under another name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, I bet Hickey &amp; Bedard both think Vidro is just Sean Casey under another name.</p>
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		<title>By: JMHawkins</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/jose-vidro-signs-with-red-sox/comment-page-2/#comment-251401</link>
		<dc:creator>JMHawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, c&#039;mon guys.  I know Bavasi has had a rough spring, but he always has a rough spring.  He&#039;ll heat up around July or August. 

Oh, is 

a1

off-topic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, c&#8217;mon guys.  I know Bavasi has had a rough spring, but he always has a rough spring.  He&#8217;ll heat up around July or August. </p>
<p>Oh, is </p>
<p>a1</p>
<p>off-topic?</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/jose-vidro-signs-with-red-sox/comment-page-2/#comment-251399</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; So when Bavasi leaves, and Fontaine and his scouts with him, are we going to hear once again about how â€œthe cupboard is bareâ€ because Bavasi, with no basis to be looking for the long term, traded everything away to win immediately? And will the next GM, after that first couple of years of trying to rebuild while blaming Bavasi, be put â€œon the hot seatâ€ to win immediately, thus emptying out the cupboard for the next GM? And so on? Because I already know how this story goes, and it doesnâ€™t get any better when only the actors are different. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you come back in five years and say, &quot;I told you so&quot;, I promise I won&#039;t react...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> So when Bavasi leaves, and Fontaine and his scouts with him, are we going to hear once again about how â€œthe cupboard is bareâ€ because Bavasi, with no basis to be looking for the long term, traded everything away to win immediately? And will the next GM, after that first couple of years of trying to rebuild while blaming Bavasi, be put â€œon the hot seatâ€ to win immediately, thus emptying out the cupboard for the next GM? And so on? Because I already know how this story goes, and it doesnâ€™t get any better when only the actors are different. </p></blockquote>
<p>If you come back in five years and say, &#8220;I told you so&#8221;, I promise I won&#8217;t react&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/jose-vidro-signs-with-red-sox/comment-page-2/#comment-251397</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is totally ot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is totally ot.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/jose-vidro-signs-with-red-sox/comment-page-2/#comment-251396</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from Hickey:

&quot;If you&#039;re waiting around for news that Erik Bedard is finally a Mariner, maybe you need to do something else for a bit. For one thing, as of 1 p.m. (PST), Bedard was still at home in Ottawa, and it&#039;s not at all clear when he will be en route to Seattle. It&#039;s possible he won&#039;t travel until Thursday.

That means no announcement will be made before Friday, if then. So if you&#039;ve got something else to do for the time being, feel free to go ahead and do it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from Hickey:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re waiting around for news that Erik Bedard is finally a Mariner, maybe you need to do something else for a bit. For one thing, as of 1 p.m. (PST), Bedard was still at home in Ottawa, and it&#8217;s not at all clear when he will be en route to Seattle. It&#8217;s possible he won&#8217;t travel until Thursday.</p>
<p>That means no announcement will be made before Friday, if then. So if you&#8217;ve got something else to do for the time being, feel free to go ahead and do it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sports on a Schtick</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/jose-vidro-signs-with-red-sox/comment-page-2/#comment-251395</link>
		<dc:creator>Sports on a Schtick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody Woodard, Pat Gillick, Bill Bavasi.

People wonder why pessimism exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody Woodard, Pat Gillick, Bill Bavasi.</p>
<p>People wonder why pessimism exists.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when Bavasi leaves, and Fontaine and his scouts with him, are we going to hear once again about how &quot;the cupboard is bare&quot; because Bavasi, with no basis to be looking for the long term, traded everything away to win immediately?  And will the next GM, after that first couple of years of trying to rebuild while blaming Bavasi, be put &quot;on the hot seat&quot; to win immediately, thus emptying out the cupboard for the &lt;i&gt;next&lt;/i&gt; GM?  And so on?  Because I already know how this story goes, and it doesn&#039;t get any better when only the actors are different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when Bavasi leaves, and Fontaine and his scouts with him, are we going to hear once again about how &#8220;the cupboard is bare&#8221; because Bavasi, with no basis to be looking for the long term, traded everything away to win immediately?  And will the next GM, after that first couple of years of trying to rebuild while blaming Bavasi, be put &#8220;on the hot seat&#8221; to win immediately, thus emptying out the cupboard for the <i>next</i> GM?  And so on?  Because I already know how this story goes, and it doesn&#8217;t get any better when only the actors are different.</p>
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		<title>By: Sports on a Schtick</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/jose-vidro-signs-with-red-sox/comment-page-2/#comment-251393</link>
		<dc:creator>Sports on a Schtick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a list of every DH who had more than 450 plate appearances in 2007: David Ortiz, Travis Hafner, Jose Vidro, Frank Thomas, Aubrey Huff, Gary Sheffield, Jim Thome and Sammy Sosa.

So Turbo was either the worst or second-worst regular DH in baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a list of every DH who had more than 450 plate appearances in 2007: David Ortiz, Travis Hafner, Jose Vidro, Frank Thomas, Aubrey Huff, Gary Sheffield, Jim Thome and Sammy Sosa.</p>
<p>So Turbo was either the worst or second-worst regular DH in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: westfried</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/05/jose-vidro-signs-with-red-sox/comment-page-2/#comment-251392</link>
		<dc:creator>westfried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Arbek.  Do you really think a new GM would be dumping Bedard?  (Or be allowed to?)

This is the Mariners (warning, pony-free pessimism ahead).  They&#039;ll hang on to him to the bitter end, rather than risk losing fans.  Probably after deciding that, while 6 games back at the deadline, that they are &quot;just a short winning streak away&quot; from getting right back into it.

Of course, you could argue that a smart, empowered GM *should* be dumping him for prospects by then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Arbek.  Do you really think a new GM would be dumping Bedard?  (Or be allowed to?)</p>
<p>This is the Mariners (warning, pony-free pessimism ahead).  They&#8217;ll hang on to him to the bitter end, rather than risk losing fans.  Probably after deciding that, while 6 games back at the deadline, that they are &#8220;just a short winning streak away&#8221; from getting right back into it.</p>
<p>Of course, you could argue that a smart, empowered GM *should* be dumping him for prospects by then&#8230;</p>
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