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	<title>Comments on: Re-running the seasons with Oakland hobbled</title>
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		<title>By: cwel87</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/02/15/re-running-the-seasons-with-oakland-hobbled/comment-page-2/#comment-252831</link>
		<dc:creator>cwel87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thereâ€™s no reason to carry Clement on the roster. Itâ€™s a bad idea - if you want a left-handed bat to backup at first base and play once or twice a week, just carry Greg Norton. For 2008, thereâ€™s very little difference between the two.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I Completely agree.  Stunting yet another top prospect&#039;s development isn&#039;t really on the top of my list of things to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thereâ€™s no reason to carry Clement on the roster. Itâ€™s a bad idea &#8211; if you want a left-handed bat to backup at first base and play once or twice a week, just carry Greg Norton. For 2008, thereâ€™s very little difference between the two.</p></blockquote>
<p>I Completely agree.  Stunting yet another top prospect&#8217;s development isn&#8217;t really on the top of my list of things to do.</p>
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		<title>By: shortbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>shortbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, and it sounds like him playing 1B in the majors is a very bad idea this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, and it sounds like him playing 1B in the majors is a very bad idea this season.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no reason to carry Clement on the roster.  It&#039;s a bad idea - if you want a left-handed bat to backup at first base and play once or twice a week, just carry Greg Norton.  For 2008, there&#039;s very little difference between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no reason to carry Clement on the roster.  It&#8217;s a bad idea &#8211; if you want a left-handed bat to backup at first base and play once or twice a week, just carry Greg Norton.  For 2008, there&#8217;s very little difference between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It &lt;a href=&quot;http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=2821&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;looks like&lt;/a&gt; he&#039;s played 143 games as catcher, and 51 as DH.  Other than maybe an odd spring training game or some emergency fielding insertion that I&#039;m sure we would&#039;ve heard about, he hasn&#039;t played anywhere else since college.  Which isn&#039;t to say he &lt;i&gt;couldn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; play 1B -- he&#039;s supposed to be a pretty good athlete, and it wouldn&#039;t be hard to match the glacier-like nimbleness of other guys that end up fielding that base -- but it&#039;s not like you want to see him learning the position in actual meaningful games.  And if you think he can be a catcher, you&#039;re not going to waste everyone&#039;s time putting him at 1B in Tacoma either.  In fact if he starts showing up at 1B for the Rainiers it would be a pretty strong indication they&#039;d given up on him as a catcher.

Johjima will be more expensive, but he seemed to go out of his way to sign with the M&#039;s the first time around.  Assuming the last couple of years haven&#039;t soured him, he may not drive a hugely hard bargain.  Either way, they&#039;ve got lots of money coming off the books they can use.  But Clement is obviously the big wild card.  Does the transition begin in the latter half of &#039;08, or do you re-sign Joh because the transition year still hasn&#039;t begun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It <a href="http://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=2821" rel="nofollow">looks like</a> he&#8217;s played 143 games as catcher, and 51 as DH.  Other than maybe an odd spring training game or some emergency fielding insertion that I&#8217;m sure we would&#8217;ve heard about, he hasn&#8217;t played anywhere else since college.  Which isn&#8217;t to say he <i>couldn&#8217;t</i> play 1B &#8212; he&#8217;s supposed to be a pretty good athlete, and it wouldn&#8217;t be hard to match the glacier-like nimbleness of other guys that end up fielding that base &#8212; but it&#8217;s not like you want to see him learning the position in actual meaningful games.  And if you think he can be a catcher, you&#8217;re not going to waste everyone&#8217;s time putting him at 1B in Tacoma either.  In fact if he starts showing up at 1B for the Rainiers it would be a pretty strong indication they&#8217;d given up on him as a catcher.</p>
<p>Johjima will be more expensive, but he seemed to go out of his way to sign with the M&#8217;s the first time around.  Assuming the last couple of years haven&#8217;t soured him, he may not drive a hugely hard bargain.  Either way, they&#8217;ve got lots of money coming off the books they can use.  But Clement is obviously the big wild card.  Does the transition begin in the latter half of &#8217;08, or do you re-sign Joh because the transition year still hasn&#8217;t begun?</p>
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		<title>By: shortbus</title>
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		<dc:creator>shortbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it kill his development to rotate Clement in as the LH platoon with Johjima, Vidro and Sexson?  Let him catch two or three days per week, play 1B a couple days and DH the other days, with perhaps a day as PH per week.  With most staters being right-handed this would significantly help the team and give Joh plenty of rest during the season.  

This raises the question of whether Clement has played any 1B in the minors. I can&#039;t seem to find it on the Rainiers web site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it kill his development to rotate Clement in as the LH platoon with Johjima, Vidro and Sexson?  Let him catch two or three days per week, play 1B a couple days and DH the other days, with perhaps a day as PH per week.  With most staters being right-handed this would significantly help the team and give Joh plenty of rest during the season.  </p>
<p>This raises the question of whether Clement has played any 1B in the minors. I can&#8217;t seem to find it on the Rainiers web site.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainPoopy</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptainPoopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - 

When are you coming out with an updated prospects list?</description>
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<p>When are you coming out with an updated prospects list?</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tossing something else in...Roger Hansen has been quoted that it&#039;s the day in between catching stints that help development for young catcher. If (and that&#039;s a big if) we take him at his word, and he&#039;s correct (another big if), that removes one block to Clement coming up. (Though he probably still has some development time left for his bat...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tossing something else in&#8230;Roger Hansen has been quoted that it&#8217;s the day in between catching stints that help development for young catcher. If (and that&#8217;s a big if) we take him at his word, and he&#8217;s correct (another big if), that removes one block to Clement coming up. (Though he probably still has some development time left for his bat&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: snapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>snapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As much as Clement would be worth much more as a catcher, they still have Johjima as a catcher, and as Dave has said before, that Johjima isnâ€™t someone you want â€œoff the booksâ€. At the same time, Johjima is kind of old for a catcher, so I wouldnâ€™t know what the club would decide to do once the season is done. After Sexson is gone, I donâ€™t know of a serious replacement at first besides Ibanez. Unless Clement puts up huge hitting numbers, it would be a waste to put him at first rather than catcher.&quot;

But Johjima will likely be much more expensive next year.

The ideal would be for Clement to be ready to be the every day catcher, and use the Sexson/Vidro (you can&#039;t let that option vest under any circumstances)/Johjima money to sign a 1B and a RF/LF.  Adam Dunn would look great at 1B with his OBP/lefty power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As much as Clement would be worth much more as a catcher, they still have Johjima as a catcher, and as Dave has said before, that Johjima isnâ€™t someone you want â€œoff the booksâ€. At the same time, Johjima is kind of old for a catcher, so I wouldnâ€™t know what the club would decide to do once the season is done. After Sexson is gone, I donâ€™t know of a serious replacement at first besides Ibanez. Unless Clement puts up huge hitting numbers, it would be a waste to put him at first rather than catcher.&#8221;</p>
<p>But Johjima will likely be much more expensive next year.</p>
<p>The ideal would be for Clement to be ready to be the every day catcher, and use the Sexson/Vidro (you can&#8217;t let that option vest under any circumstances)/Johjima money to sign a 1B and a RF/LF.  Adam Dunn would look great at 1B with his OBP/lefty power.</p>
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		<title>By: cwel87</title>
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		<dc:creator>cwel87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This year, Sexson, Johjima, and Vidro (I hope) in particular come off the books.  Giving Joh another 2-3 year contract is certainly not a bad idea if he doesn&#039;t decline rapidly this summer.  As for Sexson and Vidro, thats about $17.5M in salary (since we&#039;re not paying all of Vidro&#039;s contract), giving us plenty of room to re-sign Beltre (...please?), Bedard, and get us an actual 1B (assuming Balentin or Reed is ML-ready).

But, that&#039;s really a discussion for another time.  The bottom line right now is, Clement should get at least half a season in as a catcher in AAA (and half is almost certainly too little), and Morrow should be starting...somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year, Sexson, Johjima, and Vidro (I hope) in particular come off the books.  Giving Joh another 2-3 year contract is certainly not a bad idea if he doesn&#8217;t decline rapidly this summer.  As for Sexson and Vidro, thats about $17.5M in salary (since we&#8217;re not paying all of Vidro&#8217;s contract), giving us plenty of room to re-sign Beltre (&#8230;please?), Bedard, and get us an actual 1B (assuming Balentin or Reed is ML-ready).</p>
<p>But, that&#8217;s really a discussion for another time.  The bottom line right now is, Clement should get at least half a season in as a catcher in AAA (and half is almost certainly too little), and Morrow should be starting&#8230;somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: thefin190</title>
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		<dc:creator>thefin190</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as Clement would be worth much more as a catcher, they still have Johjima as a catcher, and as Dave has said before, that Johjima isn&#039;t someone you want &quot;off the books&quot;. At the same time, Johjima is kind of old for a catcher, so I wouldn&#039;t know what the club would decide to do once the season is done. After Sexson is gone, I don&#039;t know of a serious replacement at first besides Ibanez. Unless Clement puts up huge hitting numbers, it would be a waste to put him at first rather than catcher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as Clement would be worth much more as a catcher, they still have Johjima as a catcher, and as Dave has said before, that Johjima isn&#8217;t someone you want &#8220;off the books&#8221;. At the same time, Johjima is kind of old for a catcher, so I wouldn&#8217;t know what the club would decide to do once the season is done. After Sexson is gone, I don&#8217;t know of a serious replacement at first besides Ibanez. Unless Clement puts up huge hitting numbers, it would be a waste to put him at first rather than catcher.</p>
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