Comments on: Morrow to Double-A http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:11:54 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: IdahoInvader http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255424 IdahoInvader Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:48:43 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255424 Does anyone want Baek pitching after the 6th inning in a semi-close game...seriously? Doesn't Green still get eaten up by lefties? Does anyone want Baek pitching after the 6th inning in a semi-close game…seriously?

Doesn’t Green still get eaten up by lefties?

]]> By: JMHawkins http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255423 JMHawkins Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:42:41 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255423 So, going back a few posts to revisit the overall bullpen, Dave said this when Reitsma was released: <i>J.J. Putz works the 9th inning in games where the M’s lead by 3 runs or less. Sean Green and Eric O’Flaherty will work the 7th and 8th innings of close games. R.A. Dickey will be the mopup guy when the game gets out of hand. That leaves several holes, with roster spots going to three of Brandon Morrow, Mark Lowe, Arthur Rhodes, Ryan-Rowland Smith, and Cha Seung Baek, assuming the M’s go with a 12 man pitching staff again. I’d call that very likely at this point, especially considering Morrow’s questionable status. </i> And then yesterday Mac and DaveN were talking about an 11 man staff. Closer: JJ Putz RHP1: Green RHP2: Lowe or Baek LHP1: O'Flaherty LPH2: RRS Mop-up: RA Dickey If they went with a 12 man staff, they can keep Lowe and Baek. I'm not a big proponent of a 12 man staff, but maybe it would be a good thing here. If it's a choice between keeping Baek and keeping Cairo, I say go with the bigger bullpen. So, going back a few posts to revisit the overall bullpen, Dave said this when Reitsma was released:

J.J. Putz works the 9th inning in games where the M’s lead by 3 runs or less.
Sean Green and Eric O’Flaherty will work the 7th and 8th innings of close games.
R.A. Dickey will be the mopup guy when the game gets out of hand.

That leaves several holes, with roster spots going to three of Brandon Morrow, Mark Lowe, Arthur Rhodes, Ryan-Rowland Smith, and Cha Seung Baek, assuming the M’s go with a 12 man pitching staff again. I’d call that very likely at this point, especially considering Morrow’s questionable status.

And then yesterday Mac and DaveN were talking about an 11 man staff.

Closer: JJ Putz
RHP1: Green
RHP2: Lowe or Baek
LHP1: O’Flaherty
LPH2: RRS
Mop-up: RA Dickey

If they went with a 12 man staff, they can keep Lowe and Baek. I’m not a big proponent of a 12 man staff, but maybe it would be a good thing here. If it’s a choice between keeping Baek and keeping Cairo, I say go with the bigger bullpen.

]]> By: Mere Tantalisers http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255422 Mere Tantalisers Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:01:35 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255422 With the Mariners trying to hold on to both Baek and Dickey, I think there's a good chance Morrow stays in the minors. So long as Lowe is as effective as we know he can be and Morrow doesn't make giant strides (which is not too terribly likely) I don't see any compeling reason to bring him up even if he's down to only 1 BB/IP. With the Mariners trying to hold on to both Baek and Dickey, I think there’s a good chance Morrow stays in the minors. So long as Lowe is as effective as we know he can be and Morrow doesn’t make giant strides (which is not too terribly likely) I don’t see any compeling reason to bring him up even if he’s down to only 1 BB/IP.

]]> By: Mr. Egaas http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255421 Mr. Egaas Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:12:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255421 He's destined to the pen. When I say destined I mean doomed. They can't wait to get their golden boy back up. He’s destined to the pen. When I say destined I mean doomed. They can’t wait to get their golden boy back up.

]]> By: argh http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255420 argh Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:58:35 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255420 What would be a reasonable estimate of the number of minor league seasons it would take to mature Morrow into a MLB starter based on what we've seen of him so far? Or is that completely idiosyncratic for each pitcher? What would be a reasonable estimate of the number of minor league seasons it would take to mature Morrow into a MLB starter based on what we’ve seen of him so far? Or is that completely idiosyncratic for each pitcher?

]]> By: SCL http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255419 SCL Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:41:29 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255419 Wow! I really messed up those tags. Here's the link - http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080329&content_id=2464693&vkey=news_sea&fext=.jsp&c_id=sea MaLaren - "I see him being back fairly soon." Wow! I really messed up those tags.

Here’s the link –
http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080329&content_id=2464693&vkey=news_sea&fext=.jsp&c_id=sea

MaLaren – “I see him being back fairly soon.”

]]> By: cwel87 http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255417 cwel87 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:52:15 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255417 <blockquote>If you take a look at Morrow’s peripherals… you see some obvious flaws in his game. 35.2 GB% is pathetic, and the 4.3% HR/FB rate is unsustainable. His K rate is very impressive, but giving up almost that many walks per game is ridiculous. He needs minor league work even if the Mariners decided he would be a career reliever. He needs control and a second pitch.</blockquote> The million-dollar question is: Do you actually think that factored into the M's decision? This is an inexplicable stroke of luck. And I absolutely love it.

If you take a look at Morrow’s peripherals… you see some obvious flaws in his game. 35.2 GB% is pathetic, and the 4.3% HR/FB rate is unsustainable. His K rate is very impressive, but giving up almost that many walks per game is ridiculous. He needs minor league work even if the Mariners decided he would be a career reliever. He needs control and a second pitch.

The million-dollar question is: Do you actually think that factored into the M’s decision?

This is an inexplicable stroke of luck. And I absolutely love it.

]]> By: lailaihei http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255416 lailaihei Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:45:08 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255416 <blockquote>Morrow was pretty good last year even with just one pitch and no control - I would think that if they thought he could repeat that production they’d use him again in the majors.</blockquote> If you take a look at <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/stats/players/index.php?lastName=morrow" rel="nofollow">Morrow's peripherals...</a> you see some obvious flaws in his game. 35.2 GB% is pathetic, and the 4.3% HR/FB rate is unsustainable. His K rate is very impressive, but giving up almost that many walks per game is ridiculous. He needs minor league work even if the Mariners decided he would be a career reliever. He needs control and a second pitch.

Morrow was pretty good last year even with just one pitch and no control – I would think that if they thought he could repeat that production they’d use him again in the majors.

If you take a look at Morrow’s peripherals… you see some obvious flaws in his game. 35.2 GB% is pathetic, and the 4.3% HR/FB rate is unsustainable. His K rate is very impressive, but giving up almost that many walks per game is ridiculous. He needs minor league work even if the Mariners decided he would be a career reliever. He needs control and a second pitch.

]]> By: Librocrat http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255415 Librocrat Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:29:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255415 An Angel gets injured, Mariners could win the division. A Mariner gets injured, and it may be the best thing to happen to this team since Putz. This is all well and good, but Karma is not in our favor once the season starts. An Angel gets injured, Mariners could win the division. A Mariner gets injured, and it may be the best thing to happen to this team since Putz.

This is all well and good, but Karma is not in our favor once the season starts.

]]> By: mjllama http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/comment-page-1/#comment-255414 mjllama Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:42:47 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/2008/03/28/morrow-to-double-a/#comment-255414 The question is: rotation or bullpen? The question is: rotation or bullpen?

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