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		<title>By: dbroncos31</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-263254</link>
		<dc:creator>dbroncos31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rarely post here, but I probably stop at USSM at least 5 times a day. I spend 90% of my time on the Internet between here and LL. I have become a much more knowledgeable fan of baseball thanks to you guys. Your Future Forty updates are spectacular because in New York and Philly it is very hard to follow the M&#039;s let alone their prospects. The post on how to evaluate pitching is one of the best and most informative works I have ever read. All of the content you guys provide should be required reading for any baseball fan. I am a college student and money is tight, so I would prefer it if you guys would use ads and donations to make it run. However, if I had to pay for a subscription I would because the content that you guys provide is worth the money. 

Keep up the good work, you guya are much appreciated.

PS. I just donated so hopefully you can enjoy a few beers on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely post here, but I probably stop at USSM at least 5 times a day. I spend 90% of my time on the Internet between here and LL. I have become a much more knowledgeable fan of baseball thanks to you guys. Your Future Forty updates are spectacular because in New York and Philly it is very hard to follow the M&#8217;s let alone their prospects. The post on how to evaluate pitching is one of the best and most informative works I have ever read. All of the content you guys provide should be required reading for any baseball fan. I am a college student and money is tight, so I would prefer it if you guys would use ads and donations to make it run. However, if I had to pay for a subscription I would because the content that you guys provide is worth the money. </p>
<p>Keep up the good work, you guya are much appreciated.</p>
<p>PS. I just donated so hopefully you can enjoy a few beers on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Merrill</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-261625</link>
		<dc:creator>Merrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing wrong with ads, man. Nothing wrong with earning money for your work. Ads make the newspaper business run. No ads, no papers. No one thinks they are &quot;sellouts,&quot; or whatever silly thing people want to call them.
 
It&#039;s not a compromise, in my book. A compromise is when ads determine or influence content. So long as that is not happening, you and Dave et. al. are not compromising. So stop being silly and make some money! Y&#039;all deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing wrong with ads, man. Nothing wrong with earning money for your work. Ads make the newspaper business run. No ads, no papers. No one thinks they are &#8220;sellouts,&#8221; or whatever silly thing people want to call them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a compromise, in my book. A compromise is when ads determine or influence content. So long as that is not happening, you and Dave et. al. are not compromising. So stop being silly and make some money! Y&#8217;all deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: Say Hey</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-261580</link>
		<dc:creator>Say Hey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you got the donate button up. Cool. The users have spoken!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you got the donate button up. Cool. The users have spoken!!</p>
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		<title>By: Le Noir Faineant</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-261252</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Noir Faineant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a life-long Yankees fan (3rd generation), and don&#039;t really care about the Mariners. I found your blog while trying to find the Looney Tunes episode where Buggs Bunny takes on the Gas House something or others, and found your analysis of the game (one of the best pieces I&#039;ve read on the net, by the way. I&#039;ve read your blog semi-regularly ever since, and I hope it stays fun for you because you have one of the best baseball blogs out there. It&#039;s too bad you love one of the most backward anti-sabermetric organizations in MLB, but I wish you and the Mariners well. Outstanding work. Ignore the fans who think you hate the Mariners because of your criticism; I don&#039;t think they really know how to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a life-long Yankees fan (3rd generation), and don&#8217;t really care about the Mariners. I found your blog while trying to find the Looney Tunes episode where Buggs Bunny takes on the Gas House something or others, and found your analysis of the game (one of the best pieces I&#8217;ve read on the net, by the way. I&#8217;ve read your blog semi-regularly ever since, and I hope it stays fun for you because you have one of the best baseball blogs out there. It&#8217;s too bad you love one of the most backward anti-sabermetric organizations in MLB, but I wish you and the Mariners well. Outstanding work. Ignore the fans who think you hate the Mariners because of your criticism; I don&#8217;t think they really know how to read.</p>
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		<title>By: skipj</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-261070</link>
		<dc:creator>skipj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I love the site. Daily visitor in and out of season. 2nd on &#039;My Favorite&#039;s&#039;.

I started my working life at 11 years old and the last time anyone wrote me a paycheck I was 17. I have been self-employed for the past 31 years.

I find it INCONCEIVABLE that a site like this, with the daily unique visitor draw struggles for funds: this is do to philosophy, not opportunity. If I had the talent and ability to create this site, it would be a money maker.

You guys swing a bigger bat than you can handle. Bavasi shows up for your events because he&#039;s nice guy? ( Well, he is, ran into him on opening day, offered him a bite of my Polish sausage.). He shows up because you drive informed baseball commentary in the Northwest. Guys, you way underate your value.

So many obvious sponsors. Newspapers have kept advertising and reporting seperated for years. Why not you?

1.Mariners. Click here for great ticket deals.(Hint: cut a deal.)
2.Every bar and restaurant around Safeco. Click here for coupons.
3.Parking. Click here to pay for convenient parking in advance.
4.Stub Hub. See #1.
5. Every single Mariners advertiser is appealing to the fan base. You influence part of the fan base.

Geez, how hard is this? You seem to not want to approach your success in an entrepeneurial manner and MAKE MONEY.

I&#039;ll pay you for this site ownership and pay you for posting. Y&#039;all have my e-mail.

Thanks again for all that you&#039;ve created.

skipj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I love the site. Daily visitor in and out of season. 2nd on &#8216;My Favorite&#8217;s&#8217;.</p>
<p>I started my working life at 11 years old and the last time anyone wrote me a paycheck I was 17. I have been self-employed for the past 31 years.</p>
<p>I find it INCONCEIVABLE that a site like this, with the daily unique visitor draw struggles for funds: this is do to philosophy, not opportunity. If I had the talent and ability to create this site, it would be a money maker.</p>
<p>You guys swing a bigger bat than you can handle. Bavasi shows up for your events because he&#8217;s nice guy? ( Well, he is, ran into him on opening day, offered him a bite of my Polish sausage.). He shows up because you drive informed baseball commentary in the Northwest. Guys, you way underate your value.</p>
<p>So many obvious sponsors. Newspapers have kept advertising and reporting seperated for years. Why not you?</p>
<p>1.Mariners. Click here for great ticket deals.(Hint: cut a deal.)<br />
2.Every bar and restaurant around Safeco. Click here for coupons.<br />
3.Parking. Click here to pay for convenient parking in advance.<br />
4.Stub Hub. See #1.<br />
5. Every single Mariners advertiser is appealing to the fan base. You influence part of the fan base.</p>
<p>Geez, how hard is this? You seem to not want to approach your success in an entrepeneurial manner and MAKE MONEY.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll pay you for this site ownership and pay you for posting. Y&#8217;all have my e-mail.</p>
<p>Thanks again for all that you&#8217;ve created.</p>
<p>skipj</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-261056</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t comment often, but you&#039;re site is required daily reading for me. Thanks for all you do. I don&#039;t have any complaints or suggestions, I just enjoy the site. I think its made me a smarter baseball fan, or at least made me aware of different ways to look at the game.

Thanks for all you do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t comment often, but you&#8217;re site is required daily reading for me. Thanks for all you do. I don&#8217;t have any complaints or suggestions, I just enjoy the site. I think its made me a smarter baseball fan, or at least made me aware of different ways to look at the game.</p>
<p>Thanks for all you do!</p>
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		<title>By: jasonmcgillie</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-261011</link>
		<dc:creator>jasonmcgillie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with the idea of having a annual or twice yearly fund drive. 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;For just $99 you get this great USSM tote bag...&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with the idea of having a annual or twice yearly fund drive. </p>
<p><em>&#8220;For just $99 you get this great USSM tote bag&#8230;&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: peterm</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-261006</link>
		<dc:creator>peterm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys,

i lurk here and rarely post comments.  here are my thoughts.

you guys have a great site.  i visit once a day.  if it is a subscription site, i would not pay for it. sorry, there are other places and blogs i can read for this info.  plus, as soon as you block your site from the general public a new blogger will pop up with info like yours for free.  its the nature of the capitalism beast!

your avenue for revenue is through advertising.  you should have advertising galore on here.  you should talk to the guys at mlbtraderumors.com.  yeah the site looks like nascar on the web.  but, the content is so great it doesnt matter.  you should have banners everywhere.  if it annoys some people than send them to a secondary site that doesnt have ads and they pay a monthly subscription.

also, you should consider selling regular ebooks.  preseason preview, mid-season report card, future forty, etc.  i think you would bring in money from that side as well.  i might buy one of those.

again, your content is great, so throw a crapload of ads on here and see what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys,</p>
<p>i lurk here and rarely post comments.  here are my thoughts.</p>
<p>you guys have a great site.  i visit once a day.  if it is a subscription site, i would not pay for it. sorry, there are other places and blogs i can read for this info.  plus, as soon as you block your site from the general public a new blogger will pop up with info like yours for free.  its the nature of the capitalism beast!</p>
<p>your avenue for revenue is through advertising.  you should have advertising galore on here.  you should talk to the guys at mlbtraderumors.com.  yeah the site looks like nascar on the web.  but, the content is so great it doesnt matter.  you should have banners everywhere.  if it annoys some people than send them to a secondary site that doesnt have ads and they pay a monthly subscription.</p>
<p>also, you should consider selling regular ebooks.  preseason preview, mid-season report card, future forty, etc.  i think you would bring in money from that side as well.  i might buy one of those.</p>
<p>again, your content is great, so throw a crapload of ads on here and see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: man on soapbox</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-260971</link>
		<dc:creator>man on soapbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you get this post even though I&#039;m about a day late with it. As a writer (although I mostly write fiction) I understand that you two are not doing this gig for the money - unless you&#039;re writing for TV or movies it&#039;s not the most lucrative profession or hobby. However, there is no reason why a site this good should not generate revenue. 

I don&#039;t think ordering a whole bunch of swag is a good idea - too much overhead and then you really would have to promote it heavily. Some items might be hits, others might not sell at all. 

I don&#039;t think putting up advertising is completely necessary although it is one solution. 

I don&#039;t think creating a subscription service for posting is a good idea (and I get the sense that you guys don&#039;t either.)



Here is what I propose:

Someone, 100 or so posts above me, suggested doing a campaign like NPR or PBS, which is the ticket. 

Pick a two week period sometime during the season, (perhaps over the all-star break) and in every post and every game thread remind people that this is their only chance throughout the year to support you guys and the site, and that you will not be asking or accepting donations at any other time. Doing it in such a way tackles the biggest issue - people love to procrastinate. When we (the readership) know our window to show you (Derek and DMZ) some love is limited, people will magically spring to action. Also, you won&#039;t have to feel sleazy about constantly asking for alms, because it&#039;s limited to a predetermined time period.

There should also be a target that you want to reach and if you reach it before the two weeks are up, call the fund raiser. 

During this two week period have 4 (or potentially more) &#039;levels&#039; of sponsorship. 1st level - $5-40; 2nd level $40-80 and fans get Derek&#039;s book; 3rd level $80-120 and fans get a sweet USSM sweatshirt; 4th level $120+ and fans get to go to a game in decent seats and maybe the Elysian or Pyramid breweries before with the two of you. Again, this would give people incentive to give more rather than less, but allow virtually anyone in the readership community to lend as much support as they feel they can/should offer.

Logistically, I would wait until the two week pledge drive was over to buy the baseball tickets and the hoodies(so you know how many to get) .  

Then you guys should throw up a thank you post listing the screen names of everyone who donated, because everyone loves recognition after all.

That&#039;s all. I would be more than happy to help with logistics as I&#039;m sure would others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you get this post even though I&#8217;m about a day late with it. As a writer (although I mostly write fiction) I understand that you two are not doing this gig for the money &#8211; unless you&#8217;re writing for TV or movies it&#8217;s not the most lucrative profession or hobby. However, there is no reason why a site this good should not generate revenue. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think ordering a whole bunch of swag is a good idea &#8211; too much overhead and then you really would have to promote it heavily. Some items might be hits, others might not sell at all. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think putting up advertising is completely necessary although it is one solution. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think creating a subscription service for posting is a good idea (and I get the sense that you guys don&#8217;t either.)</p>
<p>Here is what I propose:</p>
<p>Someone, 100 or so posts above me, suggested doing a campaign like NPR or PBS, which is the ticket. </p>
<p>Pick a two week period sometime during the season, (perhaps over the all-star break) and in every post and every game thread remind people that this is their only chance throughout the year to support you guys and the site, and that you will not be asking or accepting donations at any other time. Doing it in such a way tackles the biggest issue &#8211; people love to procrastinate. When we (the readership) know our window to show you (Derek and DMZ) some love is limited, people will magically spring to action. Also, you won&#8217;t have to feel sleazy about constantly asking for alms, because it&#8217;s limited to a predetermined time period.</p>
<p>There should also be a target that you want to reach and if you reach it before the two weeks are up, call the fund raiser. </p>
<p>During this two week period have 4 (or potentially more) &#8216;levels&#8217; of sponsorship. 1st level &#8211; $5-40; 2nd level $40-80 and fans get Derek&#8217;s book; 3rd level $80-120 and fans get a sweet USSM sweatshirt; 4th level $120+ and fans get to go to a game in decent seats and maybe the Elysian or Pyramid breweries before with the two of you. Again, this would give people incentive to give more rather than less, but allow virtually anyone in the readership community to lend as much support as they feel they can/should offer.</p>
<p>Logistically, I would wait until the two week pledge drive was over to buy the baseball tickets and the hoodies(so you know how many to get) .  </p>
<p>Then you guys should throw up a thank you post listing the screen names of everyone who donated, because everyone loves recognition after all.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all. I would be more than happy to help with logistics as I&#8217;m sure would others.</p>
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		<title>By: coryke</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/04/15/five-years-of-ussm/comment-page-5/#comment-260970</link>
		<dc:creator>coryke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post was reason enough for me to register, finally, and drop a comment. The general sentiment in these comments is one of appreciation. Bottom line for me: who cares if I agree with every opinion you share; I read the RSS feed because the writing is great, the analysis is thoughtful, and it makes me think.

Unfortunately, I moved from Seattle 17 years ago, and until I found this site about a year ago, I felt very disconnected from my favorite team. Now, I get to read insightful commentary on the M&#039;s on a daily basis. Truly... thank you.

Last thought - you write about all the effort you&#039;ve given for the last several years and end the post with a question of how you could do more?!? Seriously?!? Fuhgetaboutit. I&#039;d ask what we could do, but it seems pretty clear. I know I&#039;m not alone in looking at the comments. It seems like it&#039;s our turn to step up to the plate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was reason enough for me to register, finally, and drop a comment. The general sentiment in these comments is one of appreciation. Bottom line for me: who cares if I agree with every opinion you share; I read the RSS feed because the writing is great, the analysis is thoughtful, and it makes me think.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I moved from Seattle 17 years ago, and until I found this site about a year ago, I felt very disconnected from my favorite team. Now, I get to read insightful commentary on the M&#8217;s on a daily basis. Truly&#8230; thank you.</p>
<p>Last thought &#8211; you write about all the effort you&#8217;ve given for the last several years and end the post with a question of how you could do more?!? Seriously?!? Fuhgetaboutit. I&#8217;d ask what we could do, but it seems pretty clear. I know I&#8217;m not alone in looking at the comments. It seems like it&#8217;s our turn to step up to the plate.</p>
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