Smoltz in my opinion is definitely more deserving than Mussina, he’s at least one step ahead every category other than wins, but keep in mind Smoltz moved to the pen for 3 years.

Mussina, by the way, was 20th with 310, but he must’ve dropped several places last year. Kevin Brown is 22nd. Just sayin’…

They’ll vote Glavine, Smoltz, and Maddux in because of the greatness that was the Atlanta Braves pitching staff of the 90′s. Doesn’t matter what their final numbers are, if they’re even close to HOF worthy, they’ll get in on that romantic notion alone.

Blyleven also threw 1500 more innings than Mussina and as a result 1000+ more strikeouts. Blyleven is well above Mussina going on stats.

Not to mention, Blyleven still won damn near 300 games despite pitching for some pretty mediocre teams through a lot of his career (i.e. early 70′s MIN, TEX, early 80′s CLE, & ANA before they were a faux-dynasty).

Ol’ One Mississippi, Two Mississippi

But you don’t do yourself any favors trying to make a coherent list with Tom Glavine outside the absolutely sure-thing, can’t-miss even if he wanted to Hall of Famers. He’s in. He’s right there with Maddux and Randy Johnson on the active list, and he’s arguably one of the top 25 pitchers ever, easily one of the top 50.

Glavine’s ERA+ puts him in a tie for 118th all-time. His WHIP is good for 484th. I really don’t know how you could arrive at the conclusion you did with anything other than his win total. There’s something to be said for longevity, but there’s a lot more to be said for a dominant peak. Glavine was great at his peak, but not as great as the most of the other pitchers in this discussion. A career strikeout to walk ratio of under two just doesn’t scream “Hall of Fame” to me.

But you don’t do yourself any favors trying to make a coherent list with Tom Glavine outside the absolutely sure-thing, can’t-miss even if he wanted to Hall of Famers. He’s in. He’s right there with Maddux and Randy Johnson on the active list, and he’s arguably one of the top 25 pitchers ever, easily one of the top 50.

DMZ: I understand what you are saying, however, respectfully, how could one have a national MLB award given annually in their name — and then not get into the MLB HOF?
IMO, Edgar will get in, definitely. He will

I agree that Edgar should get in, but there is certainly no guarantee that he will get in. Many writers with Hall of Fame votes are on record saying that they will never vote in a player who was primarily a DH. Also, since Edgar got a late start he doesn’t have the kind of slam-dunk counting stats to overpower such objections.

Yeah, the award was named after him, but that’s neither here nor there. I would like to say that a player with a career OPS+ of 147 can’t possibly be excluded. One can, though, because the hall gatekeepers are not very good at their job.