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		<title>By: scott19</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/05/29/off-day-pro-con/comment-page-2/#comment-276944</link>
		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;â€œOur goal coming to the winter meetings was to get help in our starting rotation and thatâ€™s what we did today,â€ Bavasi said. â€œHoracio is a young left-handed starter who makes us better immediately.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, that move at least &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; help somebody out...namely, local drug and grocery stores in the Puget Sound area who had a run on OTC stomach meds every time he started a game. :o</description>
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<p>Well, that move at least <em>did</em> help somebody out&#8230;namely, local drug and grocery stores in the Puget Sound area who had a run on OTC stomach meds every time he started a game. <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/05/29/off-day-pro-con/comment-page-2/#comment-276904</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tonight one can listen to Curto describe Rainiers vs Fresno baseball, or watch Eric Chavez rehab with the River Cats vs the Beavers on FSN</description>
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		<title>By: bratman</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/05/29/off-day-pro-con/comment-page-2/#comment-276901</link>
		<dc:creator>bratman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bedard has a lot of potential for cryptic hilarity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am actually starting to love Bedard. Making for some great comedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bedard has a lot of potential for cryptic hilarity.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am actually starting to love Bedard. Making for some great comedy.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah (as I mentioned in the game thread) the AP guy was pissy because Bedard makes his job harder:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
    Fastballs that flew past Bostonâ€™s flailing bats. Curves sharp enough to break the will of the Red Sox . Then, diving cut fastballs and tricky changeups.

    So this is why Seattle traded five players to Baltimore for Erik Bedard.

    â€It was all right,â€ Bedard (4-3) said with a shrug of the shoulders.

    The ace of few words gave more insight to whomever he was text messaging at his locker for five minutes instead of answering questions from the media.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bummer, Mr AP guy. I guess instead of showing up half drunk and stoned to have sound bites handed to you youâ€™re going to have to spend a little less of your time surfing for porn one-handed and, I donâ€™t know, actually do a little work for your paycheck.

I do love the fact that when asked the difference between this start and his (9 run) last start in New York, Bedardâ€™s one-word answer was â€œLocationâ€ â€” leaving them wondering if he was talking about pitches or geography.  With a little tutoring from Ichiro, Bedard has a lot of potential for cryptic hilarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah (as I mentioned in the game thread) the AP guy was pissy because Bedard makes his job harder:</p>
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    Fastballs that flew past Bostonâ€™s flailing bats. Curves sharp enough to break the will of the Red Sox . Then, diving cut fastballs and tricky changeups.</p>
<p>    So this is why Seattle traded five players to Baltimore for Erik Bedard.</p>
<p>    â€It was all right,â€ Bedard (4-3) said with a shrug of the shoulders.</p>
<p>    The ace of few words gave more insight to whomever he was text messaging at his locker for five minutes instead of answering questions from the media.
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<p>Bummer, Mr AP guy. I guess instead of showing up half drunk and stoned to have sound bites handed to you youâ€™re going to have to spend a little less of your time surfing for porn one-handed and, I donâ€™t know, actually do a little work for your paycheck.</p>
<p>I do love the fact that when asked the difference between this start and his (9 run) last start in New York, Bedardâ€™s one-word answer was â€œLocationâ€ â€” leaving them wondering if he was talking about pitches or geography.  With a little tutoring from Ichiro, Bedard has a lot of potential for cryptic hilarity.</p>
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		<title>By: bratman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bratman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>63- did ferness say that?</description>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, apparently Bedard could be a jerk if he was being &quot;what a number one starter is&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, apparently Bedard could be a jerk if he was being &#8220;what a number one starter is&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: bratman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bratman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bratman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bratman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from 2006 re: manny trade rumors:

From Rotoworld:
Michael Silverman says the Mariners refused to part with J.J. Putz and Adam Jones and apparently made Putz untouchable in talks. So, Putz, a soon-to-be 30-year-old reliever with a career ERA of 3.47 in 205 innings, cannot be had in trade talks, but Rafael Soriano, a soon-to-be 27-year-old reliever with a 2.89 ERA in 171 innings, &lt;blockquote&gt;can be had for a No. 4 starter&lt;/blockquote&gt;. Genius.

I guess he got his wish with Horrible Horacio

Also MSB we were told on December 7 of 2006:

&quot;Our goal coming to the winter meetings was to get help in our starting rotation and that&#039;s what we did today,&quot; Bavasi said. &quot;Horacio is a young left-handed starter who makes us better immediately.&quot;

Don&#039;t you love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from 2006 re: manny trade rumors:</p>
<p>From Rotoworld:<br />
Michael Silverman says the Mariners refused to part with J.J. Putz and Adam Jones and apparently made Putz untouchable in talks. So, Putz, a soon-to-be 30-year-old reliever with a career ERA of 3.47 in 205 innings, cannot be had in trade talks, but Rafael Soriano, a soon-to-be 27-year-old reliever with a 2.89 ERA in 171 innings,<br />
<blockquote>can be had for a No. 4 starter</p></blockquote>
<p>. Genius.</p>
<p>I guess he got his wish with Horrible Horacio</p>
<p>Also MSB we were told on December 7 of 2006:</p>
<p>&#8220;Our goal coming to the winter meetings was to get help in our starting rotation and that&#8217;s what we did today,&#8221; Bavasi said. &#8220;Horacio is a young left-handed starter who makes us better immediately.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you love it.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>last night we were told success was had because Burke made Bedard throw more change-ups.

last week we were told Joh was a problem as catcher because he asked the pitchers to throw more breaking pitches than fast balls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>last night we were told success was had because Burke made Bedard throw more change-ups.</p>
<p>last week we were told Joh was a problem as catcher because he asked the pitchers to throw more breaking pitches than fast balls.</p>
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		<title>By: bratman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>58 -

on a side note, last night Nelly sided with Bedard on not having Joh as his catcher. 

To paraphrase: 

&quot;Bedard doesn&#039;t say much anyways, and having a catcher that already lacks some communication skills can really end up hurting a guy like Bedard.&quot;

If the guy doesn&#039;t want to talk - who cares. If he throws like last night is that not enough?</description>
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<p>on a side note, last night Nelly sided with Bedard on not having Joh as his catcher. </p>
<p>To paraphrase: </p>
<p>&#8220;Bedard doesn&#8217;t say much anyways, and having a catcher that already lacks some communication skills can really end up hurting a guy like Bedard.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the guy doesn&#8217;t want to talk &#8211; who cares. If he throws like last night is that not enough?</p>
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