Comments on: Pocket guide to McLaren firing dates http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:19:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: JoeGeema http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-2/#comment-279197 JoeGeema Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:50:36 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-279197 Bob Melvin was a BAD manager when he was in Seattle. Although he is better now (thanks for using the M's as a training ground!)- he certainly isn't great - in fact - he's just taken his highly talented team from the best record in baseball to a few games over .500 in about two weeks. Bavasi MUST go - he continues to act like this is an underachieving team of all-stars he has assembled. He can't even look at this ability lacking forlorn bunch of slow, overpaid, washups and admit they CAN'T PLAY. What is wrong with this guy? Every, and I mean EVERY trade/move he has made has been an absolute, unmitigated disaster. And every move he has made has been rightly questioned by knowing fans who continue to scratch their heads. Seriously, if WE know he's making stupid moves - how stupid must they be??? McLaren MUST go - his in-game managing is disgraceful. From sitting AJ last year, to using Rick White in pressure situations, to batting Cairo second, to batting Vidro 4th - just a few examples - what more do we have to see? Bob Melvin was a BAD manager when he was in Seattle. Although he is better now (thanks for using the M’s as a training ground!)- he certainly isn’t great – in fact – he’s just taken his highly talented team from the best record in baseball to a few games over .500 in about two weeks.

Bavasi MUST go – he continues to act like this is an underachieving team of all-stars he has assembled. He can’t even look at this ability lacking forlorn bunch of slow, overpaid, washups and admit they CAN’T PLAY. What is wrong with this guy? Every, and I mean EVERY trade/move he has made has been an absolute, unmitigated disaster. And every move he has made has been rightly questioned by knowing fans who continue to scratch their heads. Seriously, if WE know he’s making stupid moves – how stupid must they be???

McLaren MUST go – his in-game managing is disgraceful. From sitting AJ last year, to using Rick White in pressure situations, to batting Cairo second, to batting Vidro 4th – just a few examples – what more do we have to see?

]]> By: Jeff Nye http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-279175 Jeff Nye Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:25:25 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-279175 Maybe because Melvin has a much more talented team now than he did with the Mariners? Maybe because Melvin has a much more talented team now than he did with the Mariners?

]]> By: WTF_Ms http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-279163 WTF_Ms Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:17:14 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-279163 #47 If Melvin was so bad, why is his team doing so GOOD??? 32-28 3.5 games ahead, FIRST in thier division. Hmmm....not so bad if the right PLAYERS and Upper Management is in place huh? #47

If Melvin was so bad, why is his team doing so GOOD???

32-28 3.5 games ahead, FIRST in thier division.

Hmmm….not so bad if the right PLAYERS and Upper Management is in place huh?

]]> By: Julio http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-279085 Julio Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:41:01 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-279085 Not sure who the next manager should be, but I would expect the interim manager to be (drum roll please) John Boles. Currently Special Assistant to Bavasi and former Marlins Manager. He stepped into a mess like this in Florida back in '96. Not sure who the next manager should be, but I would expect the interim manager to be (drum roll please) John Boles.

Currently Special Assistant to Bavasi and former Marlins Manager. He stepped into a mess like this in Florida back in ’96.

]]> By: Celadus http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-279055 Celadus Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:07:17 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-279055 #24. Melvin was a bad manager when he was with the Mariners. Evidently he, like Hargrove and McLaren, thought platooning went out with Casey Stengel. Also, he was responsible for that major league record in which the Mariners used only five different starting pitchers all year. That seemed like a bad idea at the time, though much was made of it. Not a coincidence that one of his nicknames on the blogs was "Box" as in "Dumb as a box of rocks". #24. Melvin was a bad manager when he was with the Mariners. Evidently he, like Hargrove and McLaren, thought platooning went out with Casey Stengel.

Also, he was responsible for that major league record in which the Mariners used only five different starting pitchers all year. That seemed like a bad idea at the time, though much was made of it.

Not a coincidence that one of his nicknames on the blogs was “Box” as in “Dumb as a box of rocks”.

]]> By: jro http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-279051 jro Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:45:27 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-279051 msb said: <blockquote>it wasn’t a rumor, it is right there in the AP report</blockquote> Ah, good. I threw in the disclaimers because I couldn't verify it myself. Misread the report. Thanks for pointing it out. msb said:

it wasn’t a rumor, it is right there in the AP report

Ah, good. I threw in the disclaimers because I couldn’t verify it myself. Misread the report. Thanks for pointing it out.

]]> By: msb http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-279045 msb Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:39:11 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-279045 <blockquote>There’s a rumor (emphasis on rumor) that one player ditched on the sit-at-your-locker thing. Furthermore, the player was Sexson. (Again, rumor).</blockquote> it wasn't a rumor, it is right there in the AP report. Bavasi told all the players to actually be at their lockers for the media (which a lot of them have been ducking) and Sexson did what he has apparently been doing all season-- he walked past his locker, went into the luchroom, then got on the bus to the plane.

There’s a rumor (emphasis on rumor) that one player ditched on the sit-at-your-locker thing. Furthermore, the player was Sexson. (Again, rumor).

it wasn’t a rumor, it is right there in the AP report. Bavasi told all the players to actually be at their lockers for the media (which a lot of them have been ducking) and Sexson did what he has apparently been doing all season– he walked past his locker, went into the luchroom, then got on the bus to the plane.

]]> By: wrob4343 http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-279021 wrob4343 Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:07:37 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-279021 Joser....having young players around instead of expensive (expletive) players would be logic. what in recent/nearly all of the teams history makes you think that will happen any time soon? Joser….having young players around instead of expensive (expletive) players would be logic. what in recent/nearly all of the teams history makes you think that will happen any time soon?

]]> By: joser http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-279010 joser Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:52:45 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-279010 Well, if you think about it, there is a bit of cognitive dissonance going on here. On the one hand, you hire a bunch of veterans because -- though they may be expensive and have declining skills and only do what they want -- at least they supposedly know how to win games. Then when they don't, your response is to have them stand in a corner? If you're going to treat them like kids, then why not hire kids? At least they're cheaper and more fun. And they won't mutter when you treat them like that. Well, if you think about it, there is a bit of cognitive dissonance going on here. On the one hand, you hire a bunch of veterans because — though they may be expensive and have declining skills and only do what they want — at least they supposedly know how to win games. Then when they don’t, your response is to have them stand in a corner? If you’re going to treat them like kids, then why not hire kids? At least they’re cheaper and more fun. And they won’t mutter when you treat them like that.

]]> By: jro http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/04/pocket-guide-to-mclaren-firing-dates/comment-page-1/#comment-278961 jro Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:55:58 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=5281#comment-278961 <blockquote>“One player muttered under his breath: “What are we in, kindergarten?” Wow. I’d really like to know who that dude was. Get him a big wheelbarrow for his balls and have him roll them right out the door, baby. Thanks for playing.</blockquote> There's a rumor (emphasis on rumor) that one player ditched on the sit-at-your-locker thing. Furthermore, the player was Sexson. (Again, rumor). It would be an all-too-convenient series of events if Sexson is "suddenly" DFA'd.

“One player muttered under his breath: “What are we in, kindergarten?”

Wow. I’d really like to know who that dude was. Get him a big wheelbarrow for his balls and have him roll them right out the door, baby. Thanks for playing.

There’s a rumor (emphasis on rumor) that one player ditched on the sit-at-your-locker thing. Furthermore, the player was Sexson. (Again, rumor).

It would be an all-too-convenient series of events if Sexson is “suddenly” DFA’d.

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