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		<title>By: bratman</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/draft-day-one-recap/comment-page-2/#comment-279599</link>
		<dc:creator>bratman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Raben is getting bonus coverage on ESPN right now ... Miami versus Arizona 11th inning. FYI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Raben is getting bonus coverage on ESPN right now &#8230; Miami versus Arizona 11th inning. FYI</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, gotcha. I was just trying to figure out if it was something weird with my browser or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, gotcha. I was just trying to figure out if it was something weird with my browser or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: JH</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/05/draft-day-one-recap/comment-page-2/#comment-279532</link>
		<dc:creator>JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>66: I wouldÂ´ve been very happy with any of Christian Friedrich, Zach Collier, or Connor Gillespe personally, but as Dave said earlier when someone asked the same question there were dozens of guys with more upside available at pick 20.  Clearly the scouting department wasnÂ´t in love with any of them, though.

I love the Raben pick, personally.  ItÂ´s about time the organization drafted someone like him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>66: I wouldÂ´ve been very happy with any of Christian Friedrich, Zach Collier, or Connor Gillespe personally, but as Dave said earlier when someone asked the same question there were dozens of guys with more upside available at pick 20.  Clearly the scouting department wasnÂ´t in love with any of them, though.</p>
<p>I love the Raben pick, personally.  ItÂ´s about time the organization drafted someone like him.</p>
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		<title>By: JH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>65: IÂ´m typing on a Spanish keyboard, using the draft to distract myself from he hurricane rains hitting Western Guatemala this week.  If these keyboards have a straight aposrophe, I havenÂ´t found it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>65: IÂ´m typing on a Spanish keyboard, using the draft to distract myself from he hurricane rains hitting Western Guatemala this week.  If these keyboards have a straight aposrophe, I havenÂ´t found it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: marc w</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>66 - Cole, Melville would add &#039;high-end impact talent&#039; though it&#039;d be high-risk too.  

Friedrich would&#039;ve been a decent pick more in the mold of the &#039;close to contributing&#039; side of the equation, though I&#039;m not going to argue he&#039;s &#039;high-end impact talent.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>66 &#8211; Cole, Melville would add &#8216;high-end impact talent&#8217; though it&#8217;d be high-risk too.  </p>
<p>Friedrich would&#8217;ve been a decent pick more in the mold of the &#8216;close to contributing&#8217; side of the equation, though I&#8217;m not going to argue he&#8217;s &#8216;high-end impact talent.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Gomez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, JH, that make your stance a lot clearer to me.

It&#039;s a shame, in watching Jay Bruce, Evan Longoria, Max Scherzer, etc. come up and contribute to their respective teams, to know that we had such a guy in our system in Adam Jones and that we traded him away, though that&#039;s done and not much we can do now.

That said, I&#039;m hard pressed to figure out who the Mariners could have taken with their initial pick that would have added high-end impact talent.  I think, ultimately, there is little at best that the Mariners could have done short of adding more high-risk high-reward talent.  They definitely could have picked better in the initial rounds, though... far better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, JH, that make your stance a lot clearer to me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame, in watching Jay Bruce, Evan Longoria, Max Scherzer, etc. come up and contribute to their respective teams, to know that we had such a guy in our system in Adam Jones and that we traded him away, though that&#8217;s done and not much we can do now.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m hard pressed to figure out who the Mariners could have taken with their initial pick that would have added high-end impact talent.  I think, ultimately, there is little at best that the Mariners could have done short of adding more high-risk high-reward talent.  They definitely could have picked better in the initial rounds, though&#8230; far better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s with the weird apostrophes?</description>
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		<title>By: JH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be clear, IÂ´m not saying the system lacks talent.  The problem is that very few players in the system have anything resembling current major league skills, despite all the tools in the system.  Clement is major league ready.  Saunders has been impressive, but his swing is still long and whether heÂ´ll really be more than average to slightly below at an outfield corner is up in the air.  Valbuena has made the most of pretty average tools and could become a decent major leaguer, but heÂ´s blocked by Lopez at least through 2010 so itÂ´s tough to call him a potential impact guy.

Beyond that, HalmanÂ´s still one of the rawest players in baseball, TriunfelÂ´s far more tools than skills, Aumont only has one major league pitch at present, and RamirezÂ´ pitchability grades very low.   As a group of organizational top prospects, that really doesnÂ´t compare well with other teams, even though theyÂ´re people IÂ´m very glad to see in the system.

Good organizations have multiple players with star potential AND good prospects within a year or two of contributing.  The Mariners have high-risk star potential, but nothing close to a future core until we see how those tools play out in the next few years.  Given a system profile like that, it would really have been nice to add more impact talent in the draft to give the organization as many options as possible in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, IÂ´m not saying the system lacks talent.  The problem is that very few players in the system have anything resembling current major league skills, despite all the tools in the system.  Clement is major league ready.  Saunders has been impressive, but his swing is still long and whether heÂ´ll really be more than average to slightly below at an outfield corner is up in the air.  Valbuena has made the most of pretty average tools and could become a decent major leaguer, but heÂ´s blocked by Lopez at least through 2010 so itÂ´s tough to call him a potential impact guy.</p>
<p>Beyond that, HalmanÂ´s still one of the rawest players in baseball, TriunfelÂ´s far more tools than skills, Aumont only has one major league pitch at present, and RamirezÂ´ pitchability grades very low.   As a group of organizational top prospects, that really doesnÂ´t compare well with other teams, even though theyÂ´re people IÂ´m very glad to see in the system.</p>
<p>Good organizations have multiple players with star potential AND good prospects within a year or two of contributing.  The Mariners have high-risk star potential, but nothing close to a future core until we see how those tools play out in the next few years.  Given a system profile like that, it would really have been nice to add more impact talent in the draft to give the organization as many options as possible in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: JH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm...my post includes the line: Â¨ThereÂ´s enough high-risk upside to pull them out of the discussion of worst systems in baseball...Â¨

Gomez responds with:
Â¨If you sincerely believe the Mariners have one of the worst systems in baseball...Â¨

You really need to work on understanding what people are saying before you respond to things they never said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm&#8230;my post includes the line: Â¨ThereÂ´s enough high-risk upside to pull them out of the discussion of worst systems in baseball&#8230;Â¨</p>
<p>Gomez responds with:<br />
Â¨If you sincerely believe the Mariners have one of the worst systems in baseball&#8230;Â¨</p>
<p>You really need to work on understanding what people are saying before you respond to things they never said.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

This question is more of an aside. What is your opinion of Baseball America&#039;s content (and the content of the similar sites) concerning scouting reports. Are they generally trustworthy or should they generally be taken with a grain of salt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>This question is more of an aside. What is your opinion of Baseball America&#8217;s content (and the content of the similar sites) concerning scouting reports. Are they generally trustworthy or should they generally be taken with a grain of salt?</p>
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