Comments on: Mariners Foibles

By: galaxieboi

galaxieboi — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:57:31 +0000

this was not a reference to Jim Beam or Canadian Club.

Oh shoot.

By: SoulofaCitizen

SoulofaCitizen — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:33:38 +0000

You could also add in giving away Jamie Moyer for nothing, when if they’d kept him we might have avoided Soriano for Ho Ram and if they’d traded him before the deadline we could actually have gotten some value (And yes, he’d have okd the deal, but to a contender, he probably would have.

By: gwangung

gwangung — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:55:38 +0000

a .184 average, 8 total xbh, a 2:1 K/BB ratio, just 1/2 in SBâ€™s. A .529 OPS

You’re still thinking like a Mariner front office person.

By: rcc

rcc — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:00:47 +0000

Dave’s post was excellent. The only comment that could top it was Eponymous Coward with a great reference to the “Bourbons”….and to those unfamiliar with any European history….this was not a reference to Jim Beam or Canadian Club.

By: irish

irish — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:23:46 +0000

While wondering if it’s worth the time…

A. Cabrera’s 22. He had quite a good run last year (.283/.354/.421) for the Indians in the same number of ABs as he’s struggled in this year. Still, if you think a 22-year-old player with two years of sustained success can be a bust, the significance of that probably just flew right over your head.

B. How can you possibly think counting ’07 and ’08 as two full years at this point makes any sense? Choo missed half of last year (mostly spent in the minors) after undergoing Tommy John surgery, but hit .295/.373/.473 in Cleveland in ’06. He recently returned to the Indians and is hitting .323/.421/.645 in 31 ABs so far. The guy the M’s got in return for him has been released from two teams this year, and is currently filler in the Cubs’ system.

By: fetish

fetish — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:40:47 +0000

Um, no

a .184 average, 8 total xbh, a 2:1 K/BB ratio, just 1/2 in SB’s. A .529 OPS

also,

the other guy made 17 AB’s in all of 2007, 27 in all of 2008. That’s a week and a half of play over two years.

Since we all agree that Mark Shapiro is a good GM (maybe you don’t, but whatever) then either he’s making a mistake but not playing Choo, or Choo can’t play.

By: pygmalion

pygmalion — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:37:28 +0000

2003 was not â€œdisastrousâ€ – they finished with a 93-69 record, just like in 2002 and still the second highest win total in Mâ€™s history.

From context it is clear that this is a typo, and Dave meant to write “2004″ there.

By: gwangung

gwangung — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:07:37 +0000

Or more fully, thinking that Cabrera is a bust at 23 is showing the same kind of thinking about young players as the Mariners front office is using toward young players.

By: gwangung

gwangung — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:06:04 +0000

Choo and Cabrera have both turned out to be essentially busts.

Um, no.

By: Steve T

Steve T — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:27:51 +0000

No. Not enough haterade.