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		<title>By: The Nickster</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/15/swept-at-hoooome-by-the-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-281962</link>
		<dc:creator>The Nickster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[ot, has its own thread now]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[ot, has its own thread now]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in Palo Alto</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/15/swept-at-hoooome-by-the-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-281926</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in Palo Alto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, 29(?) year old Adrian Beltre makes 30 times as much as 23 year old Ryan Zimmerman.  The shoulder is a concern, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, 29(?) year old Adrian Beltre makes 30 times as much as 23 year old Ryan Zimmerman.  The shoulder is a concern, though.</p>
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		<title>By: et_blankenship</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/15/swept-at-hoooome-by-the-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-281920</link>
		<dc:creator>et_blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...or Zimmerman over Beltre&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I didn&#039;t really set any parameters, but if I were a GM building a team using players from both teams, I would take Zimmerman in a flash, shoulder and all.

I would probably take Yuni over Guzman simply based on age, but I don&#039;t know how you can defend Yuni as the better player.  Yuniâ€™s defense is currently in reverse and his best defensive season of 2006 has actually been topped by Guzman four times over the course of his career.  Offensively, Yuni&#039;s value is propped up by an empty batting average while Guzman has spent the last two sdeason hitting like the 2001 version of himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;or Zimmerman over Beltre</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really set any parameters, but if I were a GM building a team using players from both teams, I would take Zimmerman in a flash, shoulder and all.</p>
<p>I would probably take Yuni over Guzman simply based on age, but I don&#8217;t know how you can defend Yuni as the better player.  Yuniâ€™s defense is currently in reverse and his best defensive season of 2006 has actually been topped by Guzman four times over the course of his career.  Offensively, Yuni&#8217;s value is propped up by an empty batting average while Guzman has spent the last two sdeason hitting like the 2001 version of himself.</p>
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		<title>By: JI</title>
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		<dc:creator>JI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...or Zimmerman over Beltre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;or Zimmerman over Beltre</p>
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		<title>By: JI</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/15/swept-at-hoooome-by-the-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-281914</link>
		<dc:creator>JI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Say what you will about the Nats sucking, but their offense/defense is superior to ours at nearly every position:&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I was talking about the current roster, and not the potential roster... and you&#039;d have to be nuts to take Guzman over Yuni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Say what you will about the Nats sucking, but their offense/defense is superior to ours at nearly every position:</p></blockquote>
<p>I was talking about the current roster, and not the potential roster&#8230; and you&#8217;d have to be nuts to take Guzman over Yuni.</p>
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		<title>By: edgar for mayor</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgar for mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Dunno what happen ^ed with the double quote there. But the Second paragraph in mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Dunno what happen ^ed with the double quote there. But the Second paragraph in mine.</p>
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		<title>By: edgar for mayor</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/15/swept-at-hoooome-by-the-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-281910</link>
		<dc:creator>edgar for mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Remember you canâ€™t write â€œSuckâ€ on the bag over your head â€¦ that would violate the Safeco Field code of conduct! I went to the saturday night game and actually considered wearing a bag. Maybe that should be the Mâ€™s next marketing night.&lt;blockquote&gt;


Knowing Safeco, they would just throw you out for just wearing the paper bag.
They made out entire row sit down during a exciting ralley in the in game against the Angels last year in which Yuni hit that walk off. So it would surprise me if they booted you for just having a paper bag over your head.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Remember you canâ€™t write â€œSuckâ€ on the bag over your head â€¦ that would violate the Safeco Field code of conduct! I went to the saturday night game and actually considered wearing a bag. Maybe that should be the Mâ€™s next marketing night.<br />
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<p>Knowing Safeco, they would just throw you out for just wearing the paper bag.<br />
They made out entire row sit down during a exciting ralley in the in game against the Angels last year in which Yuni hit that walk off. So it would surprise me if they booted you for just having a paper bag over your head.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: et_blankenship</title>
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		<dc:creator>et_blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say what you will about the Nats sucking, but their offense/defense is superior to ours at nearly every position:

C - Johjima/Burke vs. &lt;strong&gt;Flores&lt;/strong&gt;/Nieves - (Flores is a future All-Star)
1B - Sexy/Cairo vs. &lt;strong&gt;Nick Johnson/Da Meat Hook&lt;/strong&gt; - (Nick is made of glass and Da Meat Hook weighs 300 lbs . . . yet they are light years better than what we currently have)
2B - &lt;strong&gt;J-Lo&lt;/strong&gt; vs. F.Lopez/Belliard	(The Nats canâ€™t find any takers for Belliard, who is the offensive equivalent of Jose Lopez, plus he plays better defense at 2B and heâ€™s more versatile.  In other words, Lopez has no trade value)
3B â€“ Beltre vs.	&lt;strong&gt;Zimmerman&lt;/strong&gt; (I love Adrian Beltre, but there isnâ€™t a GM in baseball who wouldnâ€™t prefer Zimmerman)
SS â€“ Yuni vs. &lt;strong&gt;Guzman&lt;/strong&gt;/F.Lopez (Just like the Lopez vs. Belliard debate, except Guzman does everything better than Yuni.
LF â€“ &lt;strong&gt;Raul&lt;/strong&gt; vs. Kearns/Pena (As bad as Raulâ€™s defense is, I would still take him over Kearns)
CF - &lt;strong&gt;Ichiro!&lt;/strong&gt; vs. Milledge (Of course I take Ichiro, but it would be even better to play Milledge in LF and move Raul to DH)
RF â€“ Wlad/Reed vs. &lt;strong&gt;Dukes&lt;/strong&gt; (Dukes would be the 2nd or 3rd best player on the Mariners roster â€“ the dude can flat out play ball.  Itâ€™s just too bad he likes eating babies and stuff)
DH â€“ Vidro vs. &lt;strong&gt;Snicker&#039;s wrapper&lt;/strong&gt; (If the wrapper smells like Snickers and has a bit of chocolate stuck to it . . . ah hell, I would take the wrapper regardless)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you will about the Nats sucking, but their offense/defense is superior to ours at nearly every position:</p>
<p>C &#8211; Johjima/Burke vs. <strong>Flores</strong>/Nieves &#8211; (Flores is a future All-Star)<br />
1B &#8211; Sexy/Cairo vs. <strong>Nick Johnson/Da Meat Hook</strong> &#8211; (Nick is made of glass and Da Meat Hook weighs 300 lbs . . . yet they are light years better than what we currently have)<br />
2B &#8211; <strong>J-Lo</strong> vs. F.Lopez/Belliard	(The Nats canâ€™t find any takers for Belliard, who is the offensive equivalent of Jose Lopez, plus he plays better defense at 2B and heâ€™s more versatile.  In other words, Lopez has no trade value)<br />
3B â€“ Beltre vs.	<strong>Zimmerman</strong> (I love Adrian Beltre, but there isnâ€™t a GM in baseball who wouldnâ€™t prefer Zimmerman)<br />
SS â€“ Yuni vs. <strong>Guzman</strong>/F.Lopez (Just like the Lopez vs. Belliard debate, except Guzman does everything better than Yuni.<br />
LF â€“ <strong>Raul</strong> vs. Kearns/Pena (As bad as Raulâ€™s defense is, I would still take him over Kearns)<br />
CF &#8211; <strong>Ichiro!</strong> vs. Milledge (Of course I take Ichiro, but it would be even better to play Milledge in LF and move Raul to DH)<br />
RF â€“ Wlad/Reed vs. <strong>Dukes</strong> (Dukes would be the 2nd or 3rd best player on the Mariners roster â€“ the dude can flat out play ball.  Itâ€™s just too bad he likes eating babies and stuff)<br />
DH â€“ Vidro vs. <strong>Snicker&#8217;s wrapper</strong> (If the wrapper smells like Snickers and has a bit of chocolate stuck to it . . . ah hell, I would take the wrapper regardless)</p>
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		<title>By: MyOhMy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MyOhMy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember you can&#039;t write &quot;Suck&quot; on the bag over your head ... that would violate the Safeco Field code of conduct!  I went to the saturday night game and actually considered wearing a bag.  Maybe that should be the M&#039;s next marketing night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember you can&#8217;t write &#8220;Suck&#8221; on the bag over your head &#8230; that would violate the Safeco Field code of conduct!  I went to the saturday night game and actually considered wearing a bag.  Maybe that should be the M&#8217;s next marketing night.</p>
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		<title>By: jro</title>
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		<dc:creator>jro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, after getting swept by the worst NL team, it just doesn&#039;t make sense for one guy to go.

Literally everything about this team is broken. There are a few individual pieces of value, but that&#039;s only in context of the market. Letting go of one of the broken parts (again) is just like the Pentland firing...inconsequential.

Either everyone stays, or everyone goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, after getting swept by the worst NL team, it just doesn&#8217;t make sense for one guy to go.</p>
<p>Literally everything about this team is broken. There are a few individual pieces of value, but that&#8217;s only in context of the market. Letting go of one of the broken parts (again) is just like the Pentland firing&#8230;inconsequential.</p>
<p>Either everyone stays, or everyone goes.</p>
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