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		<title>By: Swungonandbelted</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/19/baker-totally-cracks-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-283695</link>
		<dc:creator>Swungonandbelted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that Pelekoudas is going to be making the monumental decisions that will set the M&#039;s back any further than they already are.  If you can get a good package at the trade deadline when you can potentially get a bidding war going, players like Bedard, Ibanez and Beltre potentially could have a much higher perceived value since they will be filling an immediate need, than they would as a strategic long term value in the off season.  I don&#039;t think that you are going to see a gutting though that sends Bedard, Ichiro, and Beltre to different teams for a combined return of 12 ash bats, a used batting practice screen, and a bucket of KFC extra crispy.   

As far as other moves go, Sexson, Vidro, Cairo...the axe needs to swing and it really doesn&#039;t matter who does it, nor can it really wait until the off season, if for nothing else than to free up roster spots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that Pelekoudas is going to be making the monumental decisions that will set the M&#8217;s back any further than they already are.  If you can get a good package at the trade deadline when you can potentially get a bidding war going, players like Bedard, Ibanez and Beltre potentially could have a much higher perceived value since they will be filling an immediate need, than they would as a strategic long term value in the off season.  I don&#8217;t think that you are going to see a gutting though that sends Bedard, Ichiro, and Beltre to different teams for a combined return of 12 ash bats, a used batting practice screen, and a bucket of KFC extra crispy.   </p>
<p>As far as other moves go, Sexson, Vidro, Cairo&#8230;the axe needs to swing and it really doesn&#8217;t matter who does it, nor can it really wait until the off season, if for nothing else than to free up roster spots.</p>
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		<title>By: edgar for mayor</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgar for mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really confused that Lee is allowed to do anything. Why hurt yourself by letting a interim GM make trades, when thats something your new GM is going to want to do.

I don&#039;t get it can some one enlighten me :S. Wouldn&#039;t it be best to leave the trading to our New? Especially big moves such as Bedard? DMZ, what do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really confused that Lee is allowed to do anything. Why hurt yourself by letting a interim GM make trades, when thats something your new GM is going to want to do.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it can some one enlighten me :S. Wouldn&#8217;t it be best to leave the trading to our New? Especially big moves such as Bedard? DMZ, what do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Swungonandbelted</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/06/19/baker-totally-cracks-me-up/comment-page-1/#comment-283679</link>
		<dc:creator>Swungonandbelted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>41:  You can&#039;t forget about WFB, one good September call up and he&#039;s been with the M&#039;s ever since.  Jim Capel had a pretty good quote in a piece on ESPN.com  - &quot;what is Willie Bloomquist -- no extra base hits -- doing in the major leagues&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>41:  You can&#8217;t forget about WFB, one good September call up and he&#8217;s been with the M&#8217;s ever since.  Jim Capel had a pretty good quote in a piece on ESPN.com  &#8211; &#8220;what is Willie Bloomquist &#8212; no extra base hits &#8212; doing in the major leagues&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jlc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to the title of the thread, I agree and that&#039;s why I read him every day. There&#039;s usually some good snark--sometimes subtle, sometimes a train roaring down the tracks--in there and it&#039;s a shame so many of his commenters miss it completely. I&#039;d love to hear an off the record conversation between you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the title of the thread, I agree and that&#8217;s why I read him every day. There&#8217;s usually some good snark&#8211;sometimes subtle, sometimes a train roaring down the tracks&#8211;in there and it&#8217;s a shame so many of his commenters miss it completely. I&#8217;d love to hear an off the record conversation between you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: argh</title>
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		<dc:creator>argh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Bedard&#039;s going, the sooner the better -- right now he&#039;s got 1.6 seasons left in him at the current compensation rate. Wait till next year and his value goes down commensurately. Plus, there&#039;s the ever-present possibility of one of his season-shortening injury problems cropping up which is a wild card with any player but one that seems more highly represented in Bedard&#039;s deck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Bedard&#8217;s going, the sooner the better &#8212; right now he&#8217;s got 1.6 seasons left in him at the current compensation rate. Wait till next year and his value goes down commensurately. Plus, there&#8217;s the ever-present possibility of one of his season-shortening injury problems cropping up which is a wild card with any player but one that seems more highly represented in Bedard&#8217;s deck.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The aggressive promotion philosophy is supposed to make prospects experience adversity before they reach the big leagues, so that theyâ€™re able to overcome it after theyâ€™re already there.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, right. And how has that worked out? Isn&#039;t their usual M.O. is to yank youngsters back to AAA, and give them NO chance to overcome that adversity? (I think the only exception is Lopez and Betancourt....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The aggressive promotion philosophy is supposed to make prospects experience adversity before they reach the big leagues, so that theyâ€™re able to overcome it after theyâ€™re already there.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, right. And how has that worked out? Isn&#8217;t their usual M.O. is to yank youngsters back to AAA, and give them NO chance to overcome that adversity? (I think the only exception is Lopez and Betancourt&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: matto</title>
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		<dc:creator>matto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we have to worry about Bedard being traded that way EC.  The M&#039;s will trade him to a team and get a decent package back be it now-deadline or after the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we have to worry about Bedard being traded that way EC.  The M&#8217;s will trade him to a team and get a decent package back be it now-deadline or after the season.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In Bakerâ€™s latest entry, he cites Armstrong warning about bringing kids up too soon and hurting their confidence. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gee, and they have such a sterling record of guiding minor leaguers over that hump.

GET THAT FOOL AWAY FROM BASEBALL OPERATIONS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In Bakerâ€™s latest entry, he cites Armstrong warning about bringing kids up too soon and hurting their confidence. </p></blockquote>
<p>Gee, and they have such a sterling record of guiding minor leaguers over that hump.</p>
<p>GET THAT FOOL AWAY FROM BASEBALL OPERATIONS!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Does anyone think that they will do an about face on their aggressive promotion campaign, or will they merely apply it only to the majors?&lt;/em&gt;

It only applies to the majors, I don&#039;t think they see it as inconsistent. The aggressive promotion philosophy is supposed to make prospects experience adversity &lt;strong&gt;before&lt;/strong&gt; they reach the big leagues, so that they&#039;re able to overcome it after they&#039;re already there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Does anyone think that they will do an about face on their aggressive promotion campaign, or will they merely apply it only to the majors?</em></p>
<p>It only applies to the majors, I don&#8217;t think they see it as inconsistent. The aggressive promotion philosophy is supposed to make prospects experience adversity <strong>before</strong> they reach the big leagues, so that they&#8217;re able to overcome it after they&#8217;re already there.</p>
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		<title>By: eponymous coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>eponymous coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically, the read I get from this is that the M&#039;s senior management is still in shock over how wrong things have gone, and is completely bewildered on where to go from here, so they&#039;re tossing out basic stock answers about wanting to be as good as they can be over the next 90 games, doing the fire-the-field-manager-and-GM dance, and so on. Thus we see Pentland and Bavasi fired, reversing poses within 72 hours on McLaren, absolutely no movement on veterans, ditching Wlad and calling up Clement, etc.

It&#039;s such a joke. I mean, COME ON, Riggleman HAS a record as a MLB manager, and it&#039;s pretty clear he&#039;s not magic fairy dust. I&#039;m also extremely skeptical that Pelekoudas is much of the answer to anything as interim GM if his answer to all of this failure is &quot;gee, let&#039;s have Riggleman give Vidro and Sexson more plate appearances to see if it makes them any better&quot;. If that&#039;s his logic, he doesn&#039;t seem to understand the idea of &quot;sunk cost&quot;, which makes him a REGRESSION on Bavasi, who at least showed that he got it with Boone, Olerud, Everett and so on.

Oh, and overseeing Pelekoudas? We have a guy who values makeup over tools. This has the potential to end up going very badly at trade deadline time, when lousy-makeup Bedard gets traded for a bunch of Willie Bloomquists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically, the read I get from this is that the M&#8217;s senior management is still in shock over how wrong things have gone, and is completely bewildered on where to go from here, so they&#8217;re tossing out basic stock answers about wanting to be as good as they can be over the next 90 games, doing the fire-the-field-manager-and-GM dance, and so on. Thus we see Pentland and Bavasi fired, reversing poses within 72 hours on McLaren, absolutely no movement on veterans, ditching Wlad and calling up Clement, etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s such a joke. I mean, COME ON, Riggleman HAS a record as a MLB manager, and it&#8217;s pretty clear he&#8217;s not magic fairy dust. I&#8217;m also extremely skeptical that Pelekoudas is much of the answer to anything as interim GM if his answer to all of this failure is &#8220;gee, let&#8217;s have Riggleman give Vidro and Sexson more plate appearances to see if it makes them any better&#8221;. If that&#8217;s his logic, he doesn&#8217;t seem to understand the idea of &#8220;sunk cost&#8221;, which makes him a REGRESSION on Bavasi, who at least showed that he got it with Boone, Olerud, Everett and so on.</p>
<p>Oh, and overseeing Pelekoudas? We have a guy who values makeup over tools. This has the potential to end up going very badly at trade deadline time, when lousy-makeup Bedard gets traded for a bunch of Willie Bloomquists.</p>
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