Comments on: Friday random jealousy

By: after4ever

after4ever — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:56:12 +0000

If Beltre really won’t take any extra BP, even as an example of leadership to goad the youngsters into the cage, then that *is* a serious clubhouse
issue. (On-field issues being more serious, of course).

If giving up AB is the price we pay for somehow jettisoning Sexsy, Vidro, and Bedard, I can live with that. And Ichiro is the most tradeable player we have. Dumping him for a heap of prospects isn’t something I’d recommend, but…if ever a team had “Fire Sale!” written all over it, it would be this bunch. Think of that this way: how likely are we to be perennial contenders again before Ichiro retires?

By: jzalman

jzalman — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:33:04 +0000

Honestly, who expects the good players to work harder now? I mean, maybe 30 games in, yeah, try to turn it around, but now? And again, when you have awful management, who wants to work hard for them? When people say a good manager “motivates his players” they’re not saying the guy says “go out there and hustle!” They’re saying he does a good job and gives them something to work for. What do Beltre, Ichiro, Felix, et al have to work for? Their jobs? MAYBE Beltre, but not rightfully so. These are the guys who should not be blamed. So they’re mailing it in now (I doubt it)…who cares? Ichiro can mail it in all he wants, it’s Washburn, Silva, Vidro, and, true, Sexson who better be busting their asses. But again, even Sexson, he knows he’s gone soon. You think if McLaren started batting Vidro 9th 2 weeks ago he’d still have a job? At some point, you give up. Ichiro et al may give up because what’s the point, they can’t save us, and the Sexson’s give up because, what’s the point, I can’t save myself.

Sorry for the rant. Plus, I just don’t believe that guys like Beltre and Ichiro aren’t trying. I don’t think these guys need “extra BP” at this point in their respective careers.

By: Steve T

Steve T — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:43:42 +0000

Yeah, it’s Beltre’s fault. Sure.

Sexson, Vidro, Cairo, Bloomquist — these guys could take 16 hours of extra BP one-on-one in the cage every day, and they’d still suck just as bad.

OscarM is right; they’re scapegoat-hunting. No one’s ever going to say “you’re right, I am bad at playing baseball”. It doesn’t have anything to do with Ichiro. It has to do with too much blame to go around.

Ichiro’s salary resented? He makes ten percent more than Sexson. Who’s the worse bargain?

By: scraps

scraps — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:20:00 +0000

I mean — correct me if I’m wrong — but isn’t Beltre a guy with a reputation for being well-liked, hard-working, and a team leader?

This is the ugliest Mariners team I can remember.

By: scraps

scraps — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:09:10 +0000

A-Rod is a a conceited jerk, most of the time. Ichiro is merely aloof, most of the time.

This tells me you like Ichiro and don’t like A-Rod, full stop.

â€œYou had kids at the park six hours before a game to work with (former hitting coach) Jeff Pentland one-on-one in the cage, and you had Beltre, whoâ€™d never do it. Pretty soon, the younger guys werenâ€™t doing it, either.â€

So these are professional coaches being quoted? Non-professional observers can notice that Beltre has simply had bad luck on balls in play, with the same approach he’s always had, but all these gutless anonymous coaches can see is his batting average? Can we find out who these useless shit-stirrers are and fire them?

By: Slippery Elmer

Slippery Elmer — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:18:10 +0000

From Rosenthal’s piece:
“Righty Rafael Soriano could be activated soon.”

Soriano hurting again? What a surprise!

By: rufusgufus

rufusgufus — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:17:20 +0000

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By: zDawgg

zDawgg — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:41:07 +0000

Quick, guys, get your resumes into the Mariners front office.

The gig pays great and there is a very low level of expectation to succeed.

You will easily last 4 or 5 years, think of the money you will have.

And you can continue to run USS Mariner, even better because you will have all kinds of inside information you can reveal first on the web site.

The papers will be pissed.

By: Kouvre

Kouvre — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:29:02 +0000

I like how the first “side story” on that Rosenthal article portrays the M’s as being gung ho about wanting Antonetti.

By: SequimRealEstate

SequimRealEstate — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:32:59 +0000

moron mental age between 8-12 therefore baseball moron might be accurate.