Comments on: Sabathia down, Bedard to go

By: gwangung

gwangung — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:59:14 +0000

But whatâ€™s the benefit of â€œpitching until heâ€™s gassedâ€ if his pitching sucks?

That means he’s pitching the Mariners’ way (i.e., they’d rather pitch tough than pitch smart).

By: Steve T

Steve T — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:00:13 +0000

But what’s the benefit of “pitching until he’s gassed” if his pitching sucks? Baseball is not a manliness competition; pitching is about getting hitters out. Anyone who prefers what Washburn has been giving us over what Bedard has been giving us doesn’t understand how the game is played. Bedard’s job isn’t giving good interview, or being a Stand Up Guy; it’s getting hitters to make out. He’s pretty good at that, however fragile the meatheads at KJR think he is (and most of them have trouble getting up out of a chair, let alone inducing ground balls).

By: abender20

abender20 — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:52:02 +0000

The problem for the M’s is that they need to be making deals that net them more than one MLB caliber prospect, and not just Mike Morse level guys. This means LaPorta, Rasmus, or something of that nature. Hopefully they can get Bedard recovered quickly and get his ass pitching at the level that will bring back a good haul by July 31st.

By: Xteve X

Xteve X — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:51:33 +0000

“I think they should try to get some value from trading Rhodes and Washburn”

Neither one of those guys has any real trade value.

At best the Ms might get a non-prospect back.

By: Karen

Karen — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:47:31 +0000

Another thing: If the “current administration” of the Mariners front office is interested in putting things behind them, they’ll dump Bedard by July 31st if only to relieve themselves of the detritis of one of the worst Bavasi deals.

By: Karen

Karen — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:44:30 +0000

John in L.A. said:

“I would think that a year and a half of Bedard would be worth a bit more than a third of that time for Sabathia.”

I think The Gasman just made a good point on KJR (yeah, sorry, but I was driving at the time, I don’t listen to them any other time), that “it’s all about the ERA with Bedard.”

Why else would he keep taking himself out of games at 99 pitches, come up with these mysterious Carl-Pavano-like ailments that keep him from being The Ace and a Real StandUp Guy and a Leader in the Clubhouse (of the pitchers, anyway), and be quoted in interviews that he hears all the criticism about his “fragility”, the Mariners getting fleeced in his trade, and how he’s looking out for Mr. #1, but it doesn’t bother him?

It’d bother me if the fans of the team I’m pitching for thought I was less valuable than Jarrod Washburn, who at least pitches until he’s gassed.

By: G-Man

G-Man — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:24:30 +0000

What will the free agent crop of SPs look like this winter? Besides CC?

By: Steve T

Steve T — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:54:15 +0000

Buy high, sell low, that’s what I always say. I think we should trade Bedard for whatever we can get, as long as it’s forty-year-olds. Preferably first basemen.

Seriously, the Bedard trade is far from the worst we’ve ever made (cough cough, HoRam, cough cough), but however bad it was, it’s done. That doesn’t justify throwing whatever value he has away.

By: jordan

jordan — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:15:44 +0000

Alright.. If the M’s can get a deal near the value that the Indians got, I would be happy. LaPorta is freaking amazing… AMAZING. If the M’s can get a player like him… do it.

By: Jeff Nye

Jeff Nye — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:05:55 +0000

Washburn can be replaced by any number of freely available guys.