Best thing about these off days

DMZ · July 16, 2008 at 10:30 am · Filed Under Mariners 

– No Vidro batting at #4
– More time to watch the Tour de France (which inexplicably scheduled a rest day during the break. Come on, organizers! Seize the opportunity!)
– It’s nice out
– Trade speculation wooooo!

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55 Responses to “Best thing about these off days”

  1. jzalman on July 16th, 2008 10:47 am

    Best thing[s]…

    And you forgot “we’re not losing any games.”

  2. msb on July 16th, 2008 10:52 am

    Reflecting on the Awesomeness that is Ichiro!

  3. Jeff Nye on July 16th, 2008 11:02 am

    Pfft, you forgot more time to talk about fencing!

  4. B_Con on July 16th, 2008 11:14 am

    We could also take this time to follow some of the Blogads. We could follow the link for mydirtybookstore.com and “Discover a UNIQUE VISUAL APPROACH to… SCOURING THE WEB FOR PORN!”

    I’m not sure if that is really the kind of ad you guys want on the sidebar, not that there is anything wrong with porn, or making money for your excellent blogging. It just doesn’t quite fit in with the rest of the site.

  5. AssumedName on July 16th, 2008 11:32 am

    My favorite consolation: At least there’s no football on, either.

    The day after the NBA Finals ends is my favorite day in sports, cuz there’s nothing but baseball. Awesome.

  6. Mustard on July 16th, 2008 11:34 am

    B_Con, I have to agree that it caught my eye when i logged in this morning, yet I don’t feel compelled to follow the link. haha

  7. The Oaf on July 16th, 2008 11:39 am

    More time to get excited for an Edward Tufte seminar on Friday. Anyone else going?

  8. bergamot on July 16th, 2008 11:45 am

    Cycling is a sport in which team chemistry is actually important. Perhaps Bill Bavasi would have more success assembling a cycling team.

  9. Go Felix on July 16th, 2008 11:49 am

    -Making funny lists of things that Richie Sexson is doing right now.

  10. ChrisB on July 16th, 2008 11:56 am

    Cycling is a sport in which team chemistry is actually important

    Ha ha… Thankfully in this years tour, it seems chemistry hasn’t been too important.

  11. MedicineHat on July 16th, 2008 12:12 pm

    Interesting news in teh off day is that Dodgers Closer T.Saito will be out until late August. This could be interesting for the Mariners. If they are silly enough to bat Vidro 4th, perhaps they are silly enough to annoint Morrow as the closer. Putz rehab went well yesterday and he is on track to pitch again soon in Tacoma, whihc would lead to his return, I would imagine. Thus, int he Mariners minds, they might have a trade piece…Putz. What could they get from the Dodgers for Putz? One of the authors was talking about the value of Andre Ethier in another post. Could this happen?

  12. G-Man on July 16th, 2008 12:27 pm

    -Making funny lists of things that Richie Sexson is doing right now.

    In our coed slowpitch softball league game, a tall guy stepped to the plate. With a hat and sunglasses, he could have passed for Sexson.

    He struck out looking. Twice.

  13. Benne on July 16th, 2008 12:32 pm

    Right now I imagine Sexson is sitting around in his underwear, watching The Weather Channel and eating cereal straight out of the box while his agent works the phones, hoping to find a GM who won’t laugh, then hang up.

  14. joser on July 16th, 2008 12:39 pm

    The trade was Betancourt for Andre Ethier and Chin-Lung Hu; Perhaps the M’s could package Putz and Betancourt together.

    The day after the NBA Finals ends is my favorite day in sports, cuz there’s nothing but baseball. Awesome.

    Best thing about the Sonics leaving? Early in the baseball season, there’s no chance a bar will be showing a Sonics game when you want to watch the M’s.

  15. G-Man on July 16th, 2008 12:45 pm

    The trade was Betancourt for Andre Ethier and Chin-Lung Hu; Perhaps the M’s could package Putz and Betancourt together.

    I remember reading the comments about that and thinking it was a long shot, but add Putz (who’d have to prove he’s healthy first) and it becomes a package that would be worth Ethier, Hu, and more.

  16. ChrisB on July 16th, 2008 12:55 pm

    Yeah, poor Richie Sexson, who is getting paid $300,000 a week to do nothing. I would hate that.

  17. msb on July 16th, 2008 1:03 pm

    Act One of Dr. Horrible?

  18. don52656 on July 16th, 2008 1:26 pm

    Does the DH rule require that the pitcher be replaced in the lineup by the DH? Can the DH be substituted for any defensive player, such as a 1B, for example?

    Then, Felix could hit when he’s pitching and we could replace Vidro/Cairo in the lineup with someone like Clement or Johjima, whoever’s not catching.

    Of course, I’d expect if it is legal to do this, Riggleman would have Felix batting cleanup.

  19. don52656 on July 16th, 2008 1:33 pm

    Bummer. Rule 6.10 explicitly says that the DH can only hit for the starting pitcher. I thought I was on to something there for a minute.

  20. MattThompson on July 16th, 2008 1:36 pm

    The day after the NBA Finals ends is my favorite day in sports, cuz thereÂ’s nothing but baseball. Awesome.

    Conversely, the worst day in sports is the first time ESPN bumps Sunday Night Baseball for a preseason NFL game.

    Or the day after the All-Star game. I hate having to wait until Friday for more baseball.

  21. HamNasty on July 16th, 2008 1:55 pm

    My favorite thing to do on off days is look at the NL all star roster and take the 11 pitchers and pick a full 14 position players to field a team and realize the payroll would only be 83.35 Million dollars. Give the coaching staff 4 million, estimate on my part for all of them (guessed off the Rockies coaching staff). And you come in about 87.35 Million dollars… OR 30 million less then the Mariners.

    Here was my roster if anyone is curious.
    H Ram
    Utley
    Uggla
    McCann
    Wright
    Guzman
    Hart
    A Gonzalez
    Braun
    Ludwick
    Fukudome
    McLouth
    Soto
    Martin
    And all 11 pitchers that threw last night.

  22. msb on July 16th, 2008 2:06 pm

    and more Ichiro!

  23. dann0 on July 16th, 2008 2:27 pm

    With 4 leftys coming up in the next 4 games, do they keep Reed on
    bench for WFB? I realize Reed’s bat has gone cold in the last week,
    but they can’t possibly be THAT lefty/righty obsessed… you think?

  24. Sports on a Schtick on July 16th, 2008 2:37 pm

    I bought some wine at Trader Joe’s today. Second half can’t come soon enough!

  25. Sentinel on July 16th, 2008 2:59 pm

    I bought some wine at Trader Joe’s today. Second half can’t come soon enough!

    I first read that ‘I bought some win at Trader Joe’s…’, then thought to myself ‘Why the hell didn’t he do that at the beginning of the season?!?”

    Then I realized… well, you know.

    I’m an idiot.

  26. mln on July 16th, 2008 3:09 pm

    You know what’s really great about these off days?

    More time to watch the round the clock coverage of the Brett Favre saga on The Worldwide Leader in Sports!

  27. msb on July 16th, 2008 3:13 pm

    finding out that future Mariner Stephen Strasburg was named to the Olympic team?

  28. Jeff Nye on July 16th, 2008 3:22 pm

    More time to watch the round the clock coverage of the Brett Favre saga on The Worldwide Leader in Sports!

    But he doesn’t play for the Yankees or Red Sox?

  29. Carson on July 16th, 2008 3:23 pm

    Does the DH rule require that the pitcher be replaced in the lineup by the DH? Can the DH be substituted for any defensive player, such as a 1B, for example?

    Yes, the DH must hit for the pitcher.

  30. RallyFried on July 16th, 2008 3:30 pm

    finding out that future Mariner Stephen Strasburg was named to the Olympic team?

    Careful with the future Mariner stuff… It’s very possible for this team to screw up something as easy as losing games!

  31. msb on July 16th, 2008 3:33 pm
    More time to watch the round the clock coverage of the Brett Favre saga on The Worldwide Leader in Sports!

    But he doesn’t play for the Yankees or Red Sox?

    give him time.

  32. the other benno on July 16th, 2008 3:34 pm

    Spending the day at work building a new computer and listening to The Baseball Project

    First time I’ve tried to link in this environment. Hope it works (Any chance WordPress puts a preview feature in the posting interface?)

  33. RoninX on July 16th, 2008 3:36 pm

    Careful with the future Mariner stuff… It’s very possible for this team to screw up something as easy as losing games!

    No kidding. Our hitters have all had to rely on massively bad luck (almost universal very low BABIP%) just to get us this close – and we are still trailing the Nats in the Strasburg sweepstakes.

    We’ll really have to crank it up (down?) in the second half before we can apply the “future mariner” label to Stephen.

  34. JMHawkins on July 16th, 2008 3:40 pm

    Does the DH rule require that the pitcher be replaced in the lineup by the DH? Can the DH be substituted for any defensive player, such as a 1B, for example?

    Then, Felix could hit when he’s pitching and we could replace Vidro/Cairo in the lineup with someone like Clement or Johjima, whoever’s not catching.

    Carson already replied that the DH must hit for the pitcher, but there’s a slight technicality that would still allow Clement to hit for Vidro.

    Vidro is already the DH. We could certainly “designate” another player to hit for the existing designate hitter. Of course, ordinary teams would just call this “replacing the DH with a better hitter” but the M’s are not an ordinary team.

  35. Jeff Nye on July 16th, 2008 4:16 pm

    Personally, I think that there should be a minimum competency level required by rule for the DH.

    Say, an .800 OPS for the season or whatever other measure you’d like.

    In other words, if they tried to trot Turbo out at DH, the umpire would eject the manager for an illegal lineup!

  36. msb on July 16th, 2008 4:26 pm

    In other words, if they tried to trot Turbo out at DH, the umpire would eject the manager for an illegal lineup!

    know what would be really cool?

    An Ejector Home Plate.

  37. scott19 on July 16th, 2008 4:51 pm

    I hate having to wait until Friday for more baseball.

    No kidding! Sheesh, you know it’s a sucky summer sports day (say that five times fast!) when you can’t even find an Australian Rules Football game on any of the global sports channels.

  38. hansk on July 16th, 2008 5:10 pm

    I came up with the best trade!!

    With the new news that Colby Rasmus (LH Of’er from the Cardinals) is no longer untouchable:

    Bedard and Ibanez

    for

    Rasmus, Chris Duncan, Jaime Garcia, + mid-level prospects

    Why this makes sense for StL: They add an ace to their rotation to keep up with division rival Brewers and Cubs. Also, he’s left handed, and all their other starters are righties. They also need a better closer than Franklin, so if/when Carpenter or Wainwright comes back either can fill that role. Also, they get another left-handed mid-line up bat. Their lineup is righty-heavy, with the exception of Rick Ankiel. They can use Schumaker as a defensive replacement late in games, and start him next year. StL gets compensatory and supplemental picks in draft from Ibanez.

    Why this makes sense for SEA: Seattle trades Bedard who wouldn’t resign. They get a 5-tool top OF prospect back that they lost in Adam Jones. Also, Rasmus is lefty, so he fits here even better. Seattle also gets a 27-year old power lefty in Duncan who can play 1B or OF. And Garcia, a pitcher, to make up for the loss of Bedard.

  39. edgar for mayor on July 16th, 2008 5:26 pm

    I haven’t seen much trade speculation today.

  40. hansk on July 16th, 2008 5:37 pm

    I like the prospect of trading with the Cardinals because they actually have some decent prospects. Not only does it mean they have something to give us, but they’re more likely to do so because their farm won’t be depleted, and they’ll still have other good prospects.

    For other mid-level pitching prospects they have Chris Perez (RHRP), Adam Ottavino (RHSP), Tyler Hennon (RHP), and Mitch Boggs (RHSP).

    This will go far to replace Tillman, Butler and Sherrill. I’m not so interested in Perez, who’s their highest-rated pitcher, but also limited to the bullpen.

    I think Bedard (LHSP) & Ibanez (OF) for Rasmus (OF), Garcia (LHSP), Duncan (OF), and Ottavino (RHSP) or Hennon (RHP) would be best.

    http://www.moundtalk.com/prospects/st-louis-cardinals-top-10-prospects-2008/

  41. jlc on July 16th, 2008 5:56 pm

    Any other Keith Olbermann fans out there? Since there was no game today, I got to watch his show. His teaser was about Ichiro’s ASG speech. Ichiro was today’s best person in the world, but the “quote” they promised us was along the lines of, “Let’s go out and bleep bleep bleep the National League’s bleep.” Not helpful, but it’s another way of showing how popular Ichiro is with other players and viewers.

  42. edgar for mayor on July 16th, 2008 5:58 pm

    Jim Street’s Fearless Second Half Prediction: The Mariners will extend the contracts of interim general manager Lee Pelekoudas and Riggleman through the 2009 season.

    I think most of you know how I feel about Jim Street…

  43. fairweatherfan on July 16th, 2008 6:11 pm

    I have often wondered why every team assigns starter, long reliever, setup and closer roles which hope and plan for (roughly)5-7 innings out of starters, 2-5 innings for long relief (for colossal early inning starter meltdown or injury), 1/3 to 2+ innings for setup men and exactly one inning for closer. Is there some physiologic reason that plugging pitchers into these roles makes them most effective? For example, why couldn’t teams “plan” to have three pitchers each throw roughly 3 innings each in a game, using “relievers” for matchup advantages in high leverage situations. The “big three” might then be available on 2-3 days rest each instead of 4-5? This might enable teams to get better use out of their three or four best pitchers instead of having to roll out a lousy 4th and 5th starter for 4-6 innings every 4th and 5th game. The pitchers might perform better only having to focus for a maximum of three innnings at a time. They might benefit from the hitters only seeing their stuff once or twice in a game. I am sure that I have “done the math” wrong, and perhaps there is some reason why the pitcher’s body recovers better on more off days after pitching more innings than fewer off days after pithing fewer innings. Surely something like this has been tried and failed. Please enlighten me.

  44. gwangung on July 16th, 2008 6:50 pm

    I haven’t seen much trade speculation today.

    Gee, hasn’t Derek practically invited mass rosterbation????

  45. Breadbaker on July 16th, 2008 7:06 pm

    I’m watching the AAA All-Star Game. Shut out for eight innings, the PCL has come back with six so far in the top of the ninth.

  46. MattThompson on July 16th, 2008 7:27 pm

    Gee, hasnÂ’t Derek practically invited mass rosterbation????

    I think that, almost by definition, this only ever happens in hijacked threads. Just wait until the ‘All time Mariner right fielder’ post or somesuch.

  47. gwangung on July 16th, 2008 8:15 pm

    I think that, almost by definition, this only ever happens in hijacked threads.

    Well, yes….theories of protective vaccination don’t work as well in real life…

  48. Jeff Nye on July 16th, 2008 8:29 pm

    Gee, hasn’t Derek practically invited mass rosterbation????

    I think you were joking, but from the comment guidelines:

    “Except! There are threads where random thoughts, new topics, and events are perfectly allowable. These are the semi-daily game threads during the season. Also, if there’s a thread on, say “news of the day” or “random trade rumors continue” it’s perfectly normal to throw new news or new trade rumors of the day in there. Use your best judgement.”

    This thread would qualify as one of the latter.

    Don’t worry. We’re still watching you.

  49. msb on July 16th, 2008 8:53 pm

    how weird is it that during the All Star game there were two national commercials featuring former Mariner managers (even if Bob Melvin had someone else’s voice dubbed over his image?)

  50. PaulMolitorCocktail on July 16th, 2008 9:47 pm

    Switch pitcher vs. switch hitter.

    How did I miss this?

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