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	<title>Comments on: Phillies Acquire Blanton</title>
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		<title>By: marc w</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/07/17/phillies-acquire-blanton/comment-page-2/#comment-290672</link>
		<dc:creator>marc w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea why the Phils moved Outman to the bullpen this year?   Were there injury/tiredness issues when he was a starter?   Or is this just a way to get him to the show quicker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any idea why the Phils moved Outman to the bullpen this year?   Were there injury/tiredness issues when he was a starter?   Or is this just a way to get him to the show quicker?</p>
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		<title>By: BobbyMac</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/07/17/phillies-acquire-blanton/comment-page-2/#comment-290669</link>
		<dc:creator>BobbyMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Blantonâ€™s league average results have hinged entirely on his low HR rates. Heâ€™s basically a right-handed Jarrod Washburn. Get him out of Oakland and watch the HR rate rise, and he wonâ€™t look league average anymore. 

Iâ€™d say Blantonâ€™s a true talent 4.5 FIP guy right now, and Outmanâ€™s probably a true talent 4.8 FIP guy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Interesting that you mention increasing HR rate for Blanton, but not for Outman, who has allowed 3 HR on 61 flies so far.

For Blanton, the HR effect would have been between 2 to 3 HR so far this year (using +20% HR/FB% adjustment going from ~9% to ~11%).

As a fan of neither team, I&#039;m interested to see what happens when he goes to an environment with a DER 22 points lower.  That could potentially have a much larger impact than a couple extra homers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Blantonâ€™s league average results have hinged entirely on his low HR rates. Heâ€™s basically a right-handed Jarrod Washburn. Get him out of Oakland and watch the HR rate rise, and he wonâ€™t look league average anymore. </p>
<p>Iâ€™d say Blantonâ€™s a true talent 4.5 FIP guy right now, and Outmanâ€™s probably a true talent 4.8 FIP guy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting that you mention increasing HR rate for Blanton, but not for Outman, who has allowed 3 HR on 61 flies so far.</p>
<p>For Blanton, the HR effect would have been between 2 to 3 HR so far this year (using +20% HR/FB% adjustment going from ~9% to ~11%).</p>
<p>As a fan of neither team, I&#8217;m interested to see what happens when he goes to an environment with a DER 22 points lower.  That could potentially have a much larger impact than a couple extra homers.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not even a sure bet that Cardenas sticks at second..... he may end up in a corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not even a sure bet that Cardenas sticks at second&#8230;.. he may end up in a corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Squiggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squiggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Franchise crippling&lt;/em&gt;? Come on, I know Gillick isn&#039;t loved around these parts, but that&#039;s some heavy hyperbole right there. 

Trading 2 A-ball players (1 a genuine prospect), and a mediocre AA pitcher for 2 years of a decent MLB starter is not even in the same zip code as &quot;franchise crippling&quot;. The Phillies did not give up any of their higher-level top prospects, nor anyone from the big-league club. The Bedard trade, now that&#039;s a crippler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Franchise crippling</em>? Come on, I know Gillick isn&#8217;t loved around these parts, but that&#8217;s some heavy hyperbole right there. </p>
<p>Trading 2 A-ball players (1 a genuine prospect), and a mediocre AA pitcher for 2 years of a decent MLB starter is not even in the same zip code as &#8220;franchise crippling&#8221;. The Phillies did not give up any of their higher-level top prospects, nor anyone from the big-league club. The Bedard trade, now that&#8217;s a crippler.</p>
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		<title>By: JSully</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave, I just read Keith Law&#039;s writeup on ESPN about the Blanton trade and he seems to have a fairly stark difference in opinion from you on the players Oakland received (he thinks Outman is a LOOGY and Cardenas is an average-at-best 2B). Just curious where you think the difference in your opinion from his lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave, I just read Keith Law&#8217;s writeup on ESPN about the Blanton trade and he seems to have a fairly stark difference in opinion from you on the players Oakland received (he thinks Outman is a LOOGY and Cardenas is an average-at-best 2B). Just curious where you think the difference in your opinion from his lies.</p>
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		<title>By: edgar for mayor</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgar for mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;letâ€™s see. the Dbacks chose a player they all know, who they love for his leadership &amp; mentoring, who knows the NL &amp; their park and is owed about $450,000 vs a player just the manager knows, who has been in the AL all his career, and is owed about $3M&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And [h]e wasn&#039;t asking for Max S. What[&#039;]s the deal[,] Pelekoudas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>letâ€™s see. the Dbacks chose a player they all know, who they love for his leadership &amp; mentoring, who knows the NL &amp; their park and is owed about $450,000 vs a player just the manager knows, who has been in the AL all his career, and is owed about $3M</p></blockquote>
<p>And [h]e wasn&#8217;t asking for Max S. What[']s the deal[,] Pelekoudas?</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We had a chance to deal Ibanez&lt;/blockquote&gt;

let&#039;s see. the Dbacks chose a player they all know, who they love for his leadership &amp; mentoring, who knows the NL &amp; their park and is owed about $450,000 vs a player just the manager knows, who has been in the AL all his career, and is owed about $3M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We had a chance to deal Ibanez</p></blockquote>
<p>let&#8217;s see. the Dbacks chose a player they all know, who they love for his leadership &amp; mentoring, who knows the NL &amp; their park and is owed about $450,000 vs a player just the manager knows, who has been in the AL all his career, and is owed about $3M.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Awesome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Awesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW. We had a chance to deal Ibanez and/or Bedard for some 2nd or 3rd tier prospects, and we get nothing. Typical, even when we&#039;re dealing with Stand Pat. We still have all the problems and no solutions. What a mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW. We had a chance to deal Ibanez and/or Bedard for some 2nd or 3rd tier prospects, and we get nothing. Typical, even when we&#8217;re dealing with Stand Pat. We still have all the problems and no solutions. What a mess.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainPoopy</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptainPoopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read a rumor with the Twins. Liriano and Cuddyer for a power-hitting 3rd baseman. That sounds as though Beltre&#039;s being talked about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read a rumor with the Twins. Liriano and Cuddyer for a power-hitting 3rd baseman. That sounds as though Beltre&#8217;s being talked about?</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>54:  Once the M&#039;s finally figured out Blanton, though, they were able to beat him up a couple of times.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™d like to see Gillick and Bavasi combine powers someday, just to see how much havoc could be created.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Add Ed Wade to that mix and you&#039;d have the New Three Stooges! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>54:  Once the M&#8217;s finally figured out Blanton, though, they were able to beat him up a couple of times.</p>
<blockquote><p>Iâ€™d like to see Gillick and Bavasi combine powers someday, just to see how much havoc could be created.</p></blockquote>
<p>Add Ed Wade to that mix and you&#8217;d have the New Three Stooges! <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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