Comments on: Please cross-apply my previous post

By: msb

msb — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:04:03 +0000

You need passion and rootedness to make losers lovable.

or 100 years of losing, instead of just 27.

By: zDawg

zDawg — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:51:45 +0000

You could have just cut and pasted February 2007 for August 2008, and called it an original work.

But since you have some morality and don’t try to insult your base (unlike the team you cover) you show us that it is from the past.

God, everything is still current in that old piece. Nothing has changed, except Felix is two years closer to free agency.

By: joser

joser — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:39:13 +0000

Can the Mâ€™s become lovable losers, or is their fate to be just losers?

You need passion and rootedness to make losers lovable. In passive-aggressive Seattle, people will just go off and bowl alone or something. “Oh, the Mariners? Are they still here?”

By: Carson

Carson — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:34:14 +0000

Derek – in the comments of that piece, you said:

Iâ€™ve said before that Bavasiâ€™s the best GM we could expect Lincoln & Co. to hire, and I still donâ€™t think thatâ€™s far from the truth.

Do you still feel that way? Do you think enough of the same has happened that MAYBE Chuck and Howard take a serious look at one of the potential candidates we’ve discussed?

C’mon, give me a glimmer of hope.

By: rcc

rcc — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:22:10 +0000

The post from February of 2007 is as accurate today as it was then. It has the feel of a political rant about GWB, but for me that only adds to the praise I am adding. Can the M’s become lovable losers, or is their fate to be just losers?

By: cody

cody — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:08:44 +0000

Wow- After reading “Imagine Sisyhphus a Mariner” for the first time (I only started reading this blog about 10 months ago), I swear that if there weren’t a few references about how bad everyone thought ’07 was gonna go, DMZ could’ve posted it today and I would have no clue it was first posted over a year ago.

It’s sad, really.

I wonder if the Mariners are starting to become the butt end of jokes in FOs around major league baseball yet?

You know, something like, “Rondell White, 4yrs; 30M! We pulled a Mariner with that one!”

By: smb

smb — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:47:17 +0000

“If this myth is tragic, that is because its hero is conscious. Where would his torture be, indeed, if at every step the hope of succeeding upheld him? …Sisyphus, proletarian of the gods, powerless and rebellious, knows the whole extent of his wretched condition: it is what he thinks of during his descent. The lucidity that was to constitute his torture at the same time crowns his victory. There is no fate that can not be surmounted by scorn.”

-Albert Camus

I’ll continue to provide much scorn.

By: optigan

optigan — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:23:39 +0000

One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

By: scraps

scraps — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:20:55 +0000

skeets35, I can’t leave either, but I don’t judge those who do. They have the sense to place their admiration and loyalties with organizations that earn it. You and I are cheering for a name. That’s a compulsion. We’re stuck with it, but I don’t think it’s morally superior to those who want to cheer for someone who has a chance to be good.

By: skeets35

skeets35 — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:05:52 +0000

I just cannot do what so many people do these days and when things go bad (even for a long time) and leave my team for someones “nation” (Red Sox, A’s, Angels, Rays, Yankees, fill in the blank). That is not a fan, that is a band Wagoneer.

Yes, our FO sucks
Yes, the ownership is creating problems
Yes, This team may have only four or five real ML level guys
Yes, things will likely get worse before they get better

Still, I am a part of Mariners nation, I will not be leaving their fan base because they suck right now, and I am sick of people who “used to be M’s fans.” Criticize, complain, yell, whine, but you are an M’s fan, or you are not….

I will now step down off my soap box (which likely has a higher OPS than most of this years team!)