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		<title>By: tangotiger</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/01/yes-im-playing-around-with-the-layout/comment-page-2/#comment-299299</link>
		<dc:creator>tangotiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I implemented comment numbers on my blog because of linking issues:
1. If I wanted to provide a link to someone to a particular comment, I could.  I&#039;ve done that quite a bit.

2. If I wanted to say &quot;check out the thread, particularly posts 17 through 21&quot;, I could.

If it was only for the situations intra-thread (responding to posts within the same thread), I don&#039;t think I would have bothered.  That said, I often do something like: 
Rally/15: Good point.  Maybe we should...
And I do find myself as I page up and down, using the comment numbers as demarcation points.

At USSM, there doesn&#039;t seem to be much inter-thread linking, so that really takes out that idea.

As for reading new comments, I always go by timestamp, not comment number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I implemented comment numbers on my blog because of linking issues:<br />
1. If I wanted to provide a link to someone to a particular comment, I could.  I&#8217;ve done that quite a bit.</p>
<p>2. If I wanted to say &#8220;check out the thread, particularly posts 17 through 21&#8243;, I could.</p>
<p>If it was only for the situations intra-thread (responding to posts within the same thread), I don&#8217;t think I would have bothered.  That said, I often do something like:<br />
Rally/15: Good point.  Maybe we should&#8230;<br />
And I do find myself as I page up and down, using the comment numbers as demarcation points.</p>
<p>At USSM, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be much inter-thread linking, so that really takes out that idea.</p>
<p>As for reading new comments, I always go by timestamp, not comment number.</p>
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		<title>By: NODO Dweller</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/01/yes-im-playing-around-with-the-layout/comment-page-2/#comment-299264</link>
		<dc:creator>NODO Dweller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re arguing a lost cause MKT :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re arguing a lost cause MKT <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MKT</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/01/yes-im-playing-around-with-the-layout/comment-page-2/#comment-299241</link>
		<dc:creator>MKT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All of the comments are time-stamped. There are never so many comments in the same minute that you should need a better way to figure out where you left off.&quot;

See my comment made at 12:08 about how time stamps are a much less efficient way to navigate than comment numbers are.  One example right here:  that was 12:08 yesterday, and it was pm.  None of that baggage is necessary if I could simply say see my comment #42.  

Also, it&#039;s not just a question of where the reader left off, it&#039;s finding out, nearly instantly, how many additional posts have come in since they started reading.


9:07 &quot;I was in a chaotic meeting with a ton of people today and we all managed to keep the conversation straight without saying â€œ#44 LOL #47 ITAâ€

Was that a face-to-face meeting?  Oral conversations are MUCH easier to follow than interrupted, asynchronous, text-only conversations on a blog.

I agree that claiming that numbering is &quot;crucial&quot; for dialog is an exageration, but the poster was clearly talking about coversations via postings, not oral conversations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All of the comments are time-stamped. There are never so many comments in the same minute that you should need a better way to figure out where you left off.&#8221;</p>
<p>See my comment made at 12:08 about how time stamps are a much less efficient way to navigate than comment numbers are.  One example right here:  that was 12:08 yesterday, and it was pm.  None of that baggage is necessary if I could simply say see my comment #42.  </p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s not just a question of where the reader left off, it&#8217;s finding out, nearly instantly, how many additional posts have come in since they started reading.</p>
<p>9:07 &#8220;I was in a chaotic meeting with a ton of people today and we all managed to keep the conversation straight without saying â€œ#44 LOL #47 ITAâ€</p>
<p>Was that a face-to-face meeting?  Oral conversations are MUCH easier to follow than interrupted, asynchronous, text-only conversations on a blog.</p>
<p>I agree that claiming that numbering is &#8220;crucial&#8221; for dialog is an exageration, but the poster was clearly talking about coversations via postings, not oral conversations.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nye</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/01/yes-im-playing-around-with-the-layout/comment-page-2/#comment-299171</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I am testing this out on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/chrome&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google Chrome&lt;/a&gt; and it works just fine!

(I hope Derek doesn&#039;t delete me for being off-topic!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I am testing this out on <a href="http://www.google.com/chrome" rel="nofollow">Google Chrome</a> and it works just fine!</p>
<p>(I hope Derek doesn&#8217;t delete me for being off-topic!)</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/01/yes-im-playing-around-with-the-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-299170</link>
		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;numbering is crucial for dialog. &lt;/i&gt;

Phhhhhhhhhhhhbbbllttt.

I was in a chaotic meeting with a ton of people today and we all managed to keep the conversation straight without saying &quot;#44 LOL #47 ITA&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>numbering is crucial for dialog. </i></p>
<p>Phhhhhhhhhhhhbbbllttt.</p>
<p>I was in a chaotic meeting with a ton of people today and we all managed to keep the conversation straight without saying &#8220;#44 LOL #47 ITA&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wabbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>wabbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU The new layout works great with my MSNTV2! I can read the comments again without having to copy and paste them into an e-mail (or read them in one-word columns that gives me a headache). It is very much appreciated. Thanks. Did I say that already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU The new layout works great with my MSNTV2! I can read the comments again without having to copy and paste them into an e-mail (or read them in one-word columns that gives me a headache). It is very much appreciated. Thanks. Did I say that already?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Crucial&quot;?

Honestly I&#039;d be pleased to see comment numbers never return, if only because it&#039;d mean no more &quot;oops, I was supposed to be replying to #44!&quot; posts.

Really, just type the person&#039;s name or blockquote their post. It isn&#039;t that hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Crucial&#8221;?</p>
<p>Honestly I&#8217;d be pleased to see comment numbers never return, if only because it&#8217;d mean no more &#8220;oops, I was supposed to be replying to #44!&#8221; posts.</p>
<p>Really, just type the person&#8217;s name or blockquote their post. It isn&#8217;t that hard.</p>
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		<title>By: bratman</title>
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		<dc:creator>bratman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>numbering is crucial for dialog. 

great new layout though - always good to have some change!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>numbering is crucial for dialog. </p>
<p>great new layout though &#8211; always good to have some change!</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/01/yes-im-playing-around-with-the-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-299142</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My argument for comment numbering isnâ€™t about replies - it about navigation. Unless your someone who sits and presses refresh every 10 seconds the numbers are useful to see whatâ€™s changed (and how much) in a thread for the less â€œpersistentâ€ readers.&lt;/i&gt;

All of the comments are time-stamped.  There are never so many comments in the same minute that you should need a better way to figure out where you left off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My argument for comment numbering isnâ€™t about replies &#8211; it about navigation. Unless your someone who sits and presses refresh every 10 seconds the numbers are useful to see whatâ€™s changed (and how much) in a thread for the less â€œpersistentâ€ readers.</i></p>
<p>All of the comments are time-stamped.  There are never so many comments in the same minute that you should need a better way to figure out where you left off.</p>
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		<title>By: NODO Dweller</title>
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		<dc:creator>NODO Dweller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My argument for comment numbering isn&#039;t about replies - it about navigation.  Unless your someone who sits and presses refresh every 10 seconds the numbers are useful to see what&#039;s changed (and how much) in a thread for the less &quot;persistent&quot; readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My argument for comment numbering isn&#8217;t about replies &#8211; it about navigation.  Unless your someone who sits and presses refresh every 10 seconds the numbers are useful to see what&#8217;s changed (and how much) in a thread for the less &#8220;persistent&#8221; readers.</p>
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