Comments on: Felix 9-19 start in one graph http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/20/felix-9-19-start-in-one-graph/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:19:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: msb http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/20/felix-9-19-start-in-one-graph/comment-page-1/#comment-300902 msb Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:46:54 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6156#comment-300902 and sadly, they do seem to have brainwashed him because he repeats the party-line when interviewed, reminding us of layer #3 in the off-season: GM --> Field Manager --> Pitching coach and sadly, they do seem to have brainwashed him because he repeats the party-line when interviewed, reminding us of layer #3 in the off-season:

GM –> Field Manager –> Pitching coach

]]> By: terry http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/20/felix-9-19-start-in-one-graph/comment-page-1/#comment-300899 terry Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:47:14 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6156#comment-300899 <blockquote>The scouting report on him must be “he’ll throw almost nothing but gas for three, maybe four innings — key up for that fastball and hack, hack, hack, because this defense sucks and the ball will find a hole.”</blockquote> Hey, that's kind of like little league but with guys with better bat speed...

The scouting report on him must be “he’ll throw almost nothing but gas for three, maybe four innings — key up for that fastball and hack, hack, hack, because this defense sucks and the ball will find a hole.”

Hey, that’s kind of like little league but with guys with better bat speed…

]]> By: pygmalion http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/20/felix-9-19-start-in-one-graph/comment-page-1/#comment-300889 pygmalion Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:54:13 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6156#comment-300889 I don't know if Felix's fastballs are + pitches or not, but I do know that both USSM and LL have repeatedly drawn attention to their lack of (a) movement and (b) location. If Felix could command these pitches and/or add some movement to them, maybe he would get by better doing what he does. But his fastballs are really straight, and he doesn't locate them well. Raw velocity only counts for so much. I don’t know if Felix’s fastballs are + pitches or not, but I do know that both USSM and LL have repeatedly drawn attention to their lack of (a) movement and (b) location. If Felix could command these pitches and/or add some movement to them, maybe he would get by better doing what he does. But his fastballs are really straight, and he doesn’t locate them well. Raw velocity only counts for so much.

]]> By: Sidi http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/20/felix-9-19-start-in-one-graph/comment-page-1/#comment-300888 Sidi Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:42:39 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6156#comment-300888 <strong>JLP</strong> from what I recall the authors of this site typically describe both two and four seam fastballs as + pitches (or at absolute worst neutral), but not his best pitches. To survive on primarily fastballs as a starter is almost impossible, and he isn't in that range of elite "I blinked, did I miss the pitch?" flamethrowers with huge movement. It's not that the fastballs are a bad pitch, it's just that they're very hittable if the batter is sitting on one. Get the hitters to tie themselves up a few times with an ugly curve and you you can break their nerve. JLP from what I recall the authors of this site typically describe both two and four seam fastballs as + pitches (or at absolute worst neutral), but not his best pitches. To survive on primarily fastballs as a starter is almost impossible, and he isn’t in that range of elite “I blinked, did I miss the pitch?” flamethrowers with huge movement.

It’s not that the fastballs are a bad pitch, it’s just that they’re very hittable if the batter is sitting on one. Get the hitters to tie themselves up a few times with an ugly curve and you you can break their nerve.

]]> By: JLP http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/20/felix-9-19-start-in-one-graph/comment-page-1/#comment-300885 JLP Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:09:11 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6156#comment-300885 Hopefully Felix will learn, after some maturation, that he's obviously a much better pitcher when he mixes it up. Honestly, I haven't wathced many games this year. Not only because we play horrible baseball that is gut-wrenching to watch, but also because I work 3-11pm and don't have a DVR. Derek, what is your opinion on Felix's fastball? I've heard a plethora of opinions, ranging from spectacular to mediocre. Hopefully Felix will learn, after some maturation, that he’s obviously a much better pitcher when he mixes it up.

Honestly, I haven’t wathced many games this year. Not only because we play horrible baseball that is gut-wrenching to watch, but also because I work 3-11pm and don’t have a DVR. Derek, what is your opinion on Felix’s fastball? I’ve heard a plethora of opinions, ranging from spectacular to mediocre.

]]> By: galaxieboi http://www.ussmariner.com/2008/09/20/felix-9-19-start-in-one-graph/comment-page-1/#comment-300883 galaxieboi Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:46:49 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=6156#comment-300883 <em>Why he, and the team, continue to think that he should work on establishing and relying on the fastball is beyond me. </em> machismo? Why he, and the team, continue to think that he should work on establishing and relying on the fastball is beyond me.

machismo?

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