Comments on: Ronny Cedeno

By: MikeC

MikeC — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:55:09 +0000

One final note…Cubs fans won’t miss Ronny Cedeno getting called out from 1st to 2nd on a walk.

Don’t ask how it can happen but Ronny managed to figure it out.

By: joser

joser — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:34:13 +0000

No reason to jump down the guy’s throat. There’s nothing wrong with B-R if you’re just interested in offering traditional stats, or something that Fangraphs doesn’t offer, like comparables or transaction history. Fangraphs isn’t the only “USSM-approved” stat site AFAIK, but it’s the place to link for all the advanced stuff you can find there (UZR, value, projections, etc), though a lot of that isn’t available for years prior to 2002.

By: The Joe

The Joe — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:07:19 +0000

Oh, I see. Sorry about that…not used to the system, I guess. Anyway, I certainly hope Ronny pans out. I’ll certainly be rooting for him.

By: mymrbig

mymrbig — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:03:49 +0000

Dude, if you are going to link to a player page, you should be linking to fangraphs. Otherwise Dave will make your computer explode. Jeeze, baseball-reference … grumble …

By: eponymous coward

eponymous coward — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:44:39 +0000

I could see Cedeno doing a Brandon Phillips...

By: AdamN

AdamN — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:19:34 +0000

[off-topic]

By: diderot

diderot — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:20:37 +0000

For what it’s worth, this from someone inside the Cubs’ organization:
– Cedeno was considered the shortstop of the future; not an A-Rod level talent, obviously, but the assumed regular for many years, with coaching prescribed to overcome a too aggressive approach at the plate. Internally, they rated him a better fielder than most outsiders (although the same person says, ‘consider the Cubs’ ability to judge their own talent’);
– when he was brought up, he immediately adopted the ‘too cool for school’ attitude; didn’t listen, didn’t hustle;
– Baker sat him down several times to try to get his attention. During one of those interims, Theriot took over short and never gave it up. End of story for Cedeno.

So, maybe the new crew here can get his attention?

By: Ms_in_Vancouver

Ms_in_Vancouver — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:10:11 +0000

I thought this BP 2006 comment was very telling:
As a shortstop, there`s little he can`t do: his tremendous arm conjures up memories of Shawon Dunston, but Cedeno has softer hands and better range. Whether or not he`ll become a better hitter is the question. He has a nice, even swing, but he`s easily overpowered, and has no notion of working the count. Promoted aggressively throughout his career, he could struggle for a year or two before settling in as a genuinely useful hitter in the big leagues. He`s penciled in as the Opening Day shortstop, but it remains to be seen if the Cubs can show some patience and let him grow up in the big leagues, or if they`ll get frustrated and turn to Neifi Perez.

By: Jeff Nye

Jeff Nye — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:48:21 +0000

Nope, you’re fine Joe; moderation notes are specific to the comment they’re attached to.

And I’ve heard a little bit of that about Cedeno, maybe it’s something that can improve with coaching, though. Time will tell.

By: Mike Snow

Mike Snow — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:37:33 +0000

I don’t think anyone has a problem with your comment, Joe, we’re always happy to have new voices chime in. I’m sure we’ll be learning about Cedeno’s reputation and seeing if our experience is the same.