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		<title>By: bseblfevr</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/21/i-had-a-feeling-this-would-get-nutty/comment-page-1/#comment-316029</link>
		<dc:creator>bseblfevr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hasn&#039;t Lugo been sent down already...Jacko is a keeper, so Johnson goes on DL and Morrow o extended ST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hasn&#8217;t Lugo been sent down already&#8230;Jacko is a keeper, so Johnson goes on DL and Morrow o extended ST.</p>
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		<title>By: Soonerman22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soonerman22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t matter we aren&#039;t getting him anyway thanks to a 3 game winning streak for prides sake to end truly the worst season ever!!! 

Not only did they lose 102 games, but then won the last 3 to ruin there chance of getting maybe one of the best pitching prospects ever!!!

We got it from both ends!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter we aren&#8217;t getting him anyway thanks to a 3 game winning streak for prides sake to end truly the worst season ever!!! </p>
<p>Not only did they lose 102 games, but then won the last 3 to ruin there chance of getting maybe one of the best pitching prospects ever!!!</p>
<p>We got it from both ends!</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Please explain, How come the NCAA allows student athletes to sign with agents in baseball but not with any other sport?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They can&#039;t. Boras is still &quot;an advisor&quot;-- he can become Strasburg&#039;s agent after the season, once his collegiate eligibility ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Please explain, How come the NCAA allows student athletes to sign with agents in baseball but not with any other sport?</p></blockquote>
<p>They can&#8217;t. Boras is still &#8220;an advisor&#8221;&#8211; he can become Strasburg&#8217;s agent after the season, once his collegiate eligibility ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;However, how much better is Stras than the kid the Mariners turned down last summer who received a $4 million dollar bonus?&lt;/em&gt;

Much. And less risk too.

&lt;em&gt;maybe it is the best thing to use our pick on a stud hitter, and spend our extra cash on Darvish or a International Phenom.&lt;/em&gt;

What stud hitter, the Fighters aren&#039;t posting Darvish (and he&#039;d cost more than Strasburg), and you seriously think an international prospect will ever be the equivalent of the best college pitcher since Mark Prior?

&lt;em&gt;There are more Strasburgâ€™s in Venezuela and Puerto Rico for quite a bit less.&lt;/em&gt;

Based on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>However, how much better is Stras than the kid the Mariners turned down last summer who received a $4 million dollar bonus?</em></p>
<p>Much. And less risk too.</p>
<p><em>maybe it is the best thing to use our pick on a stud hitter, and spend our extra cash on Darvish or a International Phenom.</em></p>
<p>What stud hitter, the Fighters aren&#8217;t posting Darvish (and he&#8217;d cost more than Strasburg), and you seriously think an international prospect will ever be the equivalent of the best college pitcher since Mark Prior?</p>
<p><em>There are more Strasburgâ€™s in Venezuela and Puerto Rico for quite a bit less.</em></p>
<p>Based on?</p>
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		<title>By: qwerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>qwerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please explain, How come the NCAA allows student athletes to sign with agents in baseball but not with any other sport?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please explain, How come the NCAA allows student athletes to sign with agents in baseball but not with any other sport?</p>
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		<title>By: justinh</title>
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		<dc:creator>justinh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strasburg is sick, nasty, whatever you want to say.  What he did over the summer was pretty unreal with Team USA, and he was amazing in his start against the Netherlands in the Olympics.  However, he did struggle against Cuba.  

The problem is, with a young guy like Strasburg, professionals have seen everything.  If he were to never play in the minors I would be shocked if he had immense success right away.  Remember, the two years or so in the minors are meant to refine your game.  Nearly ALL College pitchers tip their hand in one way or another, do not protect the arm as they should, and it is hard for me to compare Matsuzaka, who was 8 years older than Stras.  

All that being said, would I pay him $50 million, no.  $25 million, I still think it is pretty nuts, but if you do the math against signing an average MLB pitcher for $8-$9 million per year, it does not sound as absurd.  If you give him $25 million and he doesn&#039;t pan out worth a lick, that is $4 million per year.  However, how much better is Stras than the kid the Mariners turned down last summer who received a $4 million dollar bonus?  I am blanking on name, but he is 19 and throws 95MPH and A&#039;s jumped in.  So, looks as though the baseball draft is looking more and more like NFL draft.  The success of the last 4-5 MLB drafts, or even going back longer, makes giving Strasburg the big money look somewhat sane.  With the Nationals beginning to spend and the need to create a better relationship and atmosphere for fans, signing Strasburg would make sense.  We all know it will be a &quot;Pay to Play&quot; campaign by Boras and we certainly cannot waste the second pick.  

To me he is worth $15 million, a 50% jump over previous highest dollar amount.  The funny thing is in 5 years, we are ALL going to be so pissed off if Washington signs Strasburg and he is the second coming of Christ.  Yet, we probably won&#039;t be saying a damn word if he turns into Ryan Anderson or former Mariner top pick Roger Salkeld, and doesn&#039;t turn into a damn thing.  Pitchers are VERY HARD to judge because of injuries and more.  It is hard to turn away from Stras, but maybe it is the best thing to use our pick on a stud hitter, and spend our extra cash on Darvish or a International Phenom.  There are more Strasburg&#039;s in Venezuela and Puerto Rico for quite a bit less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strasburg is sick, nasty, whatever you want to say.  What he did over the summer was pretty unreal with Team USA, and he was amazing in his start against the Netherlands in the Olympics.  However, he did struggle against Cuba.  </p>
<p>The problem is, with a young guy like Strasburg, professionals have seen everything.  If he were to never play in the minors I would be shocked if he had immense success right away.  Remember, the two years or so in the minors are meant to refine your game.  Nearly ALL College pitchers tip their hand in one way or another, do not protect the arm as they should, and it is hard for me to compare Matsuzaka, who was 8 years older than Stras.  </p>
<p>All that being said, would I pay him $50 million, no.  $25 million, I still think it is pretty nuts, but if you do the math against signing an average MLB pitcher for $8-$9 million per year, it does not sound as absurd.  If you give him $25 million and he doesn&#8217;t pan out worth a lick, that is $4 million per year.  However, how much better is Stras than the kid the Mariners turned down last summer who received a $4 million dollar bonus?  I am blanking on name, but he is 19 and throws 95MPH and A&#8217;s jumped in.  So, looks as though the baseball draft is looking more and more like NFL draft.  The success of the last 4-5 MLB drafts, or even going back longer, makes giving Strasburg the big money look somewhat sane.  With the Nationals beginning to spend and the need to create a better relationship and atmosphere for fans, signing Strasburg would make sense.  We all know it will be a &#8220;Pay to Play&#8221; campaign by Boras and we certainly cannot waste the second pick.  </p>
<p>To me he is worth $15 million, a 50% jump over previous highest dollar amount.  The funny thing is in 5 years, we are ALL going to be so pissed off if Washington signs Strasburg and he is the second coming of Christ.  Yet, we probably won&#8217;t be saying a damn word if he turns into Ryan Anderson or former Mariner top pick Roger Salkeld, and doesn&#8217;t turn into a damn thing.  Pitchers are VERY HARD to judge because of injuries and more.  It is hard to turn away from Stras, but maybe it is the best thing to use our pick on a stud hitter, and spend our extra cash on Darvish or a International Phenom.  There are more Strasburg&#8217;s in Venezuela and Puerto Rico for quite a bit less.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breadbaker has some good points.  This has got to come up in the next CBA, and it&#039;s the kind of thing that the MLBPA will concede to get other things their &lt;i&gt;current&lt;/i&gt; members care more about.  (As an aside, I think the union should also try demanding that the teams be required to have a payroll at least equal to the luxury tax / revenue sharing they get from the other teams, so you don&#039;t have a situation like Florida where Loria can receive $30M from the other teams, spend $15M on payroll, and pocket the difference... all while claiming poverty to avoid paying back loans to MLB and get the local governments to pay 2/3rds the cost of a new stadium.  If you want to pick the evilest person in baseball, Boras doesn&#039;t even come close.  Incidentally, I&#039;m inordinately proud of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=loria+evil+genius&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.)
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The Aâ€™s tanked that last weekend to ensure the Mâ€™s didnâ€™t get the top pick and kick their ass with Strasburg for the next 6 years.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
While I doubt that was their overt marching orders (everybody wants to win), I wouldn&#039;t put it past Beane to have at least considered that and suggested the coaching staff &quot;play the kids.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breadbaker has some good points.  This has got to come up in the next CBA, and it&#8217;s the kind of thing that the MLBPA will concede to get other things their <i>current</i> members care more about.  (As an aside, I think the union should also try demanding that the teams be required to have a payroll at least equal to the luxury tax / revenue sharing they get from the other teams, so you don&#8217;t have a situation like Florida where Loria can receive $30M from the other teams, spend $15M on payroll, and pocket the difference&#8230; all while claiming poverty to avoid paying back loans to MLB and get the local governments to pay 2/3rds the cost of a new stadium.  If you want to pick the evilest person in baseball, Boras doesn&#8217;t even come close.  Incidentally, I&#8217;m inordinately proud of <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=loria+evil+genius" rel="nofollow">this</a>.)</p>
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The Aâ€™s tanked that last weekend to ensure the Mâ€™s didnâ€™t get the top pick and kick their ass with Strasburg for the next 6 years.
</p></blockquote>
<p>While I doubt that was their overt marching orders (everybody wants to win), I wouldn&#8217;t put it past Beane to have at least considered that and suggested the coaching staff &#8220;play the kids.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: gag harbor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gag harbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The A&#039;s tanked that last weekend to ensure the M&#039;s didn&#039;t get the top pick and kick their ass with Strasburg for the next 6 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The A&#8217;s tanked that last weekend to ensure the M&#8217;s didn&#8217;t get the top pick and kick their ass with Strasburg for the next 6 years.</p>
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		<title>By: djw</title>
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		<dc:creator>djw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boras is very good at his job, which is removing money from the pockets of billionaire owners and placing it in his clients hands (and his own). More power to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boras is very good at his job, which is removing money from the pockets of billionaire owners and placing it in his clients hands (and his own). More power to him.</p>
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		<title>By: jguier</title>
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		<dc:creator>jguier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joser...point taken.

I&#039;m sorry, Dick Cheney is actually a better pick for the arch fiend. 

Boras is a lesser demon--probably Mammon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joser&#8230;point taken.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, Dick Cheney is actually a better pick for the arch fiend. </p>
<p>Boras is a lesser demon&#8211;probably Mammon.</p>
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