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		<title>By: ThundaPC</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/23/note-to-seattle-baseball-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-316146</link>
		<dc:creator>ThundaPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of which, Geoff Baker apparently has a special feature prepared for the Sunday paper that delves deeper into statistical analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of which, Geoff Baker apparently has a special feature prepared for the Sunday paper that delves deeper into statistical analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/23/note-to-seattle-baseball-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-316118</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we need a Note to National Baseball Writers, for the idiocy that is Jorge Arangure&#039;s Ichiro piece in ESPN?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we need a Note to National Baseball Writers, for the idiocy that is Jorge Arangure&#8217;s Ichiro piece in ESPN?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmie the Geek</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/23/note-to-seattle-baseball-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-316117</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmie the Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah, but do you want to hear their new album? Didnâ€™t think so. Just play the hits, dudes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The first three albums, in order please.  :)

&lt;i&gt;at Budokan&lt;/i&gt; got played a LOT at my house back in the day... but hey, I was only 14 so cut me some slack!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, but do you want to hear their new album? Didnâ€™t think so. Just play the hits, dudes.</p></blockquote>
<p>The first three albums, in order please.  <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>at Budokan</i> got played a LOT at my house back in the day&#8230; but hey, I was only 14 so cut me some slack!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/23/note-to-seattle-baseball-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-316017</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but do you want to hear their &lt;em&gt;new album&lt;/em&gt;? Didn&#039;t think so. Just play the hits, dudes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but do you want to hear their <em>new album</em>? Didn&#8217;t think so. Just play the hits, dudes.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/23/note-to-seattle-baseball-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-316010</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, don&#039;t be dissing Def Leppard!  I almost lost my virginity while they were on the cassette deck.  (Damn button-fly pegged-leg acid-washed Levis....)

;)

Actually, seriously: they&#039;re touring with Cheap Trick this summer.   
And (oh ack) Poison.  But nevermind that, I mean, c&#039;mon... &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trickworld.com/Sounds/thetunes.wav&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cheap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trickworld.com/Sounds/apu.wav&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Trick!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, don&#8217;t be dissing Def Leppard!  I almost lost my virginity while they were on the cassette deck.  (Damn button-fly pegged-leg acid-washed Levis&#8230;.)<br />
 <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, seriously: they&#8217;re touring with Cheap Trick this summer.<br />
And (oh ack) Poison.  But nevermind that, I mean, c&#8217;mon&#8230; <i><a href="http://www.trickworld.com/Sounds/thetunes.wav" rel="nofollow">Cheap</a><a> </a><a href="http://www.trickworld.com/Sounds/apu.wav" rel="nofollow">Trick!</a></i></p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/23/note-to-seattle-baseball-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-315990</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting all excited about Bill James in 2008 is about as sensible as getting all excited about Def Leppard in 2008. James was an important pioneer, and his old Abstracts were classics, but he hasn&#039;t really contributed anything of value in twenty years. The world&#039;s moved on. Tom Tango is light-years out in front of James, frinstance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting all excited about Bill James in 2008 is about as sensible as getting all excited about Def Leppard in 2008. James was an important pioneer, and his old Abstracts were classics, but he hasn&#8217;t really contributed anything of value in twenty years. The world&#8217;s moved on. Tom Tango is light-years out in front of James, frinstance.</p>
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		<title>By: Slurve</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/23/note-to-seattle-baseball-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-315981</link>
		<dc:creator>Slurve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; Iâ€™m equally amazed at unwillingness to positively engage USSM for what it is in the Seattle sports scene.&lt;/em&gt;

Maybe it&#039;s because of Dave&#039;s anti-mariner bias and his pessimism...

I used to think he was wrong because of it while we&#039;re celebreting the Bedard trade he was calling for the head of Bavasi and it wasn&#039;t until this past season that I realized goddammit he&#039;s right and has been all along...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> Iâ€™m equally amazed at unwillingness to positively engage USSM for what it is in the Seattle sports scene.</em></p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because of Dave&#8217;s anti-mariner bias and his pessimism&#8230;</p>
<p>I used to think he was wrong because of it while we&#8217;re celebreting the Bedard trade he was calling for the head of Bavasi and it wasn&#8217;t until this past season that I realized goddammit he&#8217;s right and has been all along&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s been the case for years. Bill James comes out with x, people note that x was already figured out two years ago by these other people and James actually has x wrong, James tells everyone (again) that he doesn&#039;t read anyone else&#039;s research (why this is acceptable is beyond me), repeat cycle. It&#039;s really frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s been the case for years. Bill James comes out with x, people note that x was already figured out two years ago by these other people and James actually has x wrong, James tells everyone (again) that he doesn&#8217;t read anyone else&#8217;s research (why this is acceptable is beyond me), repeat cycle. It&#8217;s really frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Breadbaker</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/23/note-to-seattle-baseball-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-315978</link>
		<dc:creator>Breadbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In classic print journalism, this wouldn&#039;t happen because an editor would say &quot;Larry, don&#039;t write on this because I&#039;ve assigned it to Geoff&quot;, or &quot;Geoff, you handle the straight factual piece and Larry, you do the opinion piece.&quot;  Or the editor might combine the three stories into one.  

Blogs are blogs, they&#039;re not edited, and so you can end up with three bloggers for the same company blogging on the same issue unless they coordinate.

The sadder thing is that the Bill James stuff, which isn&#039;t really news to anyone, is &quot;news&quot; because of Bill James&#039;s name and reputation in the more general (i.e., non-statistics-based) sports community, while a more interesting or unique approach from a Tom Tango gets publicity only here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In classic print journalism, this wouldn&#8217;t happen because an editor would say &#8220;Larry, don&#8217;t write on this because I&#8217;ve assigned it to Geoff&#8221;, or &#8220;Geoff, you handle the straight factual piece and Larry, you do the opinion piece.&#8221;  Or the editor might combine the three stories into one.  </p>
<p>Blogs are blogs, they&#8217;re not edited, and so you can end up with three bloggers for the same company blogging on the same issue unless they coordinate.</p>
<p>The sadder thing is that the Bill James stuff, which isn&#8217;t really news to anyone, is &#8220;news&#8221; because of Bill James&#8217;s name and reputation in the more general (i.e., non-statistics-based) sports community, while a more interesting or unique approach from a Tom Tango gets publicity only here.</p>
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		<title>By: ThundaPC</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/03/23/note-to-seattle-baseball-writers/comment-page-1/#comment-315975</link>
		<dc:creator>ThundaPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just happy the media is working on getting caught up with modern statistical analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just happy the media is working on getting caught up with modern statistical analysis.</p>
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