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		<title>By: bilbo27</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/06/11/game-60-mariners-at-orioles/comment-page-2/#comment-333380</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbo27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW (today in the pre-game interview) Wak revealed Bedard will miss his next start with shoulder inflammation.  Further:

&quot;The second part of the bombshell is that Brandon Morrow will make the start in Bedard&#039;s place. He will be limited to 60 pitches. Wakamatsu messed with Morrow by calling him into his office and saying, &quot;:You ready to start?&quot;

Morrow, thinking he was headed to Tacoma, replied, &quot;Yeah.&quot;

Wakamatsu said, &quot;Here?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW (today in the pre-game interview) Wak revealed Bedard will miss his next start with shoulder inflammation.  Further:</p>
<p>&#8220;The second part of the bombshell is that Brandon Morrow will make the start in Bedard&#8217;s place. He will be limited to 60 pitches. Wakamatsu messed with Morrow by calling him into his office and saying, &#8220;:You ready to start?&#8221;</p>
<p>Morrow, thinking he was headed to Tacoma, replied, &#8220;Yeah.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wakamatsu said, &#8220;Here?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/06/11/game-60-mariners-at-orioles/comment-page-2/#comment-333340</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevertheless, Dave Cameron said at the time the trade was going down that he wouldn&#039;t swap Bedard for Jones straight up.  He was widely ridiculed by many commenters here and elsewhere at the time, but given that Bedard departs this year (or costs a lot of money to retain) whereas Baltimore gets to enjoy AJ for another 3+ years at little more than the league minimum, I&#039;d say he&#039;s being proven correct.

And Bedard is a far more proven quantity than Strasburg (to get back to the point of that original quote).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevertheless, Dave Cameron said at the time the trade was going down that he wouldn&#8217;t swap Bedard for Jones straight up.  He was widely ridiculed by many commenters here and elsewhere at the time, but given that Bedard departs this year (or costs a lot of money to retain) whereas Baltimore gets to enjoy AJ for another 3+ years at little more than the league minimum, I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s being proven correct.</p>
<p>And Bedard is a far more proven quantity than Strasburg (to get back to the point of that original quote).</p>
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		<title>By: SeasonTix</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/06/11/game-60-mariners-at-orioles/comment-page-2/#comment-333321</link>
		<dc:creator>SeasonTix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breadbaker,

I saw that comment about Adam Jones too and had the same reaction.

I will never forgive Bill Bavasi for that trade. I was really looking forward to watching Jones play for the M&#039;s.

BUT ...

I think it was Dave C. who pointed out that the Adam Jones trade effectively brought us Jack Z &amp; Company in the FO, Wak as the manager and Guti in CF.

So when you look at it from that perspective, it&#039;s a lot easier to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breadbaker,</p>
<p>I saw that comment about Adam Jones too and had the same reaction.</p>
<p>I will never forgive Bill Bavasi for that trade. I was really looking forward to watching Jones play for the M&#8217;s.</p>
<p>BUT &#8230;</p>
<p>I think it was Dave C. who pointed out that the Adam Jones trade effectively brought us Jack Z &amp; Company in the FO, Wak as the manager and Guti in CF.</p>
<p>So when you look at it from that perspective, it&#8217;s a lot easier to take.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, according to one press account I read, that HR by Branyan tied for the 6th longest ever hit at Camden Yards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, according to one press account I read, that HR by Branyan tied for the 6th longest ever hit at Camden Yards.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing strange about the catching situation.  They&#039;ve said they want to continue developing Moore.  If they brought him up now they&#039;d be burning an option year on him and he&#039;d spend most of it sitting on the bench not batting and not calling games (GQ has been in, what, three games so far?)  This is a nice contrast to the Bavasi era, when guys were rushed up without proper development (hello, Mr Morrow).

And of course Clement&#039;s knee isn&#039;t letting him catch in Tacoma so he&#039;s certainly not able to catch in the majors.

So, as Mike Snow says, the fact that GQ is here is proof that such a guy is necessary.  It just so happens Rob Johnson was already that guy, and he got hurt while he was filling in for Johjima.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing strange about the catching situation.  They&#8217;ve said they want to continue developing Moore.  If they brought him up now they&#8217;d be burning an option year on him and he&#8217;d spend most of it sitting on the bench not batting and not calling games (GQ has been in, what, three games so far?)  This is a nice contrast to the Bavasi era, when guys were rushed up without proper development (hello, Mr Morrow).</p>
<p>And of course Clement&#8217;s knee isn&#8217;t letting him catch in Tacoma so he&#8217;s certainly not able to catch in the majors.</p>
<p>So, as Mike Snow says, the fact that GQ is here is proof that such a guy is necessary.  It just so happens Rob Johnson was already that guy, and he got hurt while he was filling in for Johjima.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Quiroz has never seemed to be much more than a back up to the guy that backs up the back up catcher&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s what he is alright, and as we&#039;ve seen, you need that guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Quiroz has never seemed to be much more than a back up to the guy that backs up the back up catcher</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what he is alright, and as we&#8217;ve seen, you need that guy.</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quips aside, that catching situation is a bit of a head-scratcher at the moment...

Paging Adam Moore...please report to &lt;strike&gt;Safeco&lt;/strike&gt; (the visitors&#039; clubhouse at) Coors Field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quips aside, that catching situation is a bit of a head-scratcher at the moment&#8230;</p>
<p>Paging Adam Moore&#8230;please report to <strike>Safeco</strike> (the visitors&#8217; clubhouse at) Coors Field.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyJive</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillyJive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We also have Moore and Clement (still a catcher at this point technically) my question was simply why did they bother to bring Quiroz back into the M&#039;s system with all the catchers we have....
Quiroz has never seemed to be much more than a back up to the guy that backs up the back up catcher....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We also have Moore and Clement (still a catcher at this point technically) my question was simply why did they bother to bring Quiroz back into the M&#8217;s system with all the catchers we have&#8230;.<br />
Quiroz has never seemed to be much more than a back up to the guy that backs up the back up catcher&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Breadbaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breadbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Let&#039;s say they&#039;re talking to the Orioles about Adam Jones. I&#039;ll ask you this: If you put Adam Jones back in the draft right now, who would go No. 1 -- him or Strasburg? I&#039;d say Adam Jones. So no way you&#039;re giving up an Adam Jones for this kid. But obviously, I know what Adam Jones is now. And I think I know what he&#039;s going to be. I don&#039;t know what Stephen Strasburg is going to be.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Courtesy of &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&amp;page=rumblings090611&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rumblings and Grumblings&lt;/a&gt;.  Think about it.  A guy we traded along with an All-Star and two guys who look to be rotation starters would, in this unnamed guy&#039;s opinion, be worth more today than Stephen Strasburg.  I may vomit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let&#8217;s say they&#8217;re talking to the Orioles about Adam Jones. I&#8217;ll ask you this: If you put Adam Jones back in the draft right now, who would go No. 1 &#8212; him or Strasburg? I&#8217;d say Adam Jones. So no way you&#8217;re giving up an Adam Jones for this kid. But obviously, I know what Adam Jones is now. And I think I know what he&#8217;s going to be. I don&#8217;t know what Stephen Strasburg is going to be.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> Courtesy of <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&amp;page=rumblings090611" rel="nofollow">Rumblings and Grumblings</a>.  Think about it.  A guy we traded along with an All-Star and two guys who look to be rotation starters would, in this unnamed guy&#8217;s opinion, be worth more today than Stephen Strasburg.  I may vomit.</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;and donâ€™t we have enough catchers in the system? 

Considering the starter is on the DL and the backup is too hurt to play, and the two that are playing werenâ€™t on the opening day roster, the answer would apparently be â€œno.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And, unfortunately, the M&#039;s don&#039;t quite have the technology available just yet to construct androids to catch for them.  (*New twist...since I was wearing out my &quot;Spinal Tap&quot; analogy pretty quick. ;))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>and donâ€™t we have enough catchers in the system? </p>
<p>Considering the starter is on the DL and the backup is too hurt to play, and the two that are playing werenâ€™t on the opening day roster, the answer would apparently be â€œno.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>And, unfortunately, the M&#8217;s don&#8217;t quite have the technology available just yet to construct androids to catch for them.  (*New twist&#8230;since I was wearing out my &#8220;Spinal Tap&#8221; analogy pretty quick. <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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